middle-class anti-social behaviour
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From: bod on 9 Aug 2010 11:42 boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:25:39 +0100 > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> Well I've been on some motorway sections where a lot of cars were >> averaging 90 and even a hundred plus sometimes. > > Not the M40 around Beaconsfield after midnight by any chance? :) > > B2003 > > Surprisingly, on that stretch at about 4.pm was one of them. Bod
From: boltar2003 on 9 Aug 2010 11:53 On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:42:57 +0100 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:25:39 +0100 >> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> Well I've been on some motorway sections where a lot of cars were >>> averaging 90 and even a hundred plus sometimes. >> >> Not the M40 around Beaconsfield after midnight by any chance? :) >> >> B2003 >> > > > >Surprisingly, on that stretch at about 4.pm was one of them. 4pm? Odd, I'd have thought it would be too busy at that time. Still, 1.5 miles of dead straight 8 lane highway tends to go to some peoples heads around there. Admittedly I did do 130 indicated myself there back in the 90s in the small hours :) B2003
From: Brimstone on 9 Aug 2010 11:53 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4c60194d$0$12287$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net... >> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, >> sounding much like they were saying: >> >>> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of >>> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I >>> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through >>> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways? >>> >>> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some >>> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes >>> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits >>> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils >>> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case. >>> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing >>> basis will move the county councils to action. >> >> You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed >> limit". > > Now where have we heard that before. Someone usually replies to point out > that the limit *is* the recommended speed for the road given normal > conditions. Then a reply about, please show me the place in the highway > code where it says the sign is a target speed. Then someone replies to say > that you will fail a driving test for not driving up close to the speed > limit, then someone else replies to say no you won't. Then someone will > say that the speed limit is too slow in certain conditions for some > drivers. Then someone else will say I did say "for the conditions". Then > an argument breaks out. etc etc. Yes, but apart from all that ...
From: Brimstone on 9 Aug 2010 11:56 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4c6016db$0$12301$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:rMOdnXtFiZZ3l_3RnZ2dnUVZ8nSdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> >> "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:152iy79149hvd.1gznaye1ry640$.dlg(a)40tude.net... >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:06:11 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: >>> >>>> �Speeding is middle-class anti-social behaviour >>> >>> the R4 presenter this am seemed quite keen on more 20s in town centres >>> offset by 80 on the motorways. Brake were very keen on lots more 20s and >>> thought you couldn't have 80 because the rare motorway accidents are >>> often >>> serious. >>> I cannot see the 80 happening. >>> >> Indeed, it'll be the scaremongers that stop it. They seem to overlook the >> fact that most people travel at 80, or faster, already. > > Problem with that argument is that if the limit were 80, then lots would > travel at 90 or faster. > Indeed they would, especially those who understand ACPO guidelines and over reading speedos (no names etc but you know who you are).
From: Ian Jackson on 9 Aug 2010 11:58
In message <8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes >Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, >sounding much like they were saying: > >> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of >> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I >> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through >> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways? >> >> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some >> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes >> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits >> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils >> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case. >> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing >> basis will move the county councils to action. > >You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed >limit". On the contrary, if you read what I said, I'm not confusing anything! -- Ian |