From: bod on 9 Aug 2010 12:48 Phil Stovell wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:09:48 +0000, boltar2003 wrote: > >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:59:39 +0100 >> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> Years back I did 133mph in my Opel Monza on the M4 coming back from >>> London, this was around the Heston services section. I even overtook a >>> police dog van and thought...whoops! I came off at Heston and disappeared >>> into some side roads and parked up in a side road for about 20 minutes, >>> in case they had radioed through to other traffic plod. >> Smart move :) These days though some ANPR camera in the van would just >> send your number to plod HQ and you'd have someone knocking on the door >> the next day anyway. >> >> B2003 > > Oh go on, more willy waving p-uh-lease. > > Eh!? Bod
From: Ian Dalziel on 9 Aug 2010 18:10 On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:58:26 +0100, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian ><toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes >>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, >>sounding much like they were saying: >> >>> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of >>> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I >>> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through >>> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways? >>> >>> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some >>> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes >>> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits >>> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils >>> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case. >>> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing >>> basis will move the county councils to action. >> >>You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed >>limit". > >On the contrary, if you read what I said, I'm not confusing anything! You're confusing me. Why do you want a 20mph limit if it won't change the speed people drive at?
From: Ian Jackson on 10 Aug 2010 03:07 In message <h5v0665u7prlekeu40ctjecg9offrlkka3(a)4ax.com>, Ian Dalziel <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> writes >On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:58:26 +0100, Ian Jackson ><ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>In message <8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian >><toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes >>>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, >>>sounding much like they were saying: >>> >>>> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of >>>> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I >>>> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through >>>> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways? >>>> >>>> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some >>>> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes >>>> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits >>>> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils >>>> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case. >>>> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing >>>> basis will move the county councils to action. >>> >>>You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed >>>limit". >> >>On the contrary, if you read what I said, I'm not confusing anything! > >You're confusing me. Why do you want a 20mph limit if it won't change >the speed people drive at? > It was just a cynical aside - a rhetorical question. Please don't feel obliged to provide an answer! -- Ian
From: Brimstone on 10 Aug 2010 03:39 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:3tbfx8wgz2x6$.10zuhs13pnro5.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:33:10 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >>>> That's not the point she's making. Try re-reading her comment in >>>> context. >>> >>> I think she should have said "otherwise law-abiding". >>> >> I think she said what she meant to say. Those who condemn other law >> breakers >> whilst doing so themselves. > > then she is wrong to think working class people do not do that. > Indeed, but working class people tend to be more honest about their law breaking.
From: Brimstone on 10 Aug 2010 03:41
"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1qmgrriww1759$.v197q104bc31.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:34:06 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >> Probably because it's the middle class who are most self-righteous and >> outspoken. > > its still a really bad piece of stereotyping of both working and middle > classes. > In an article such as that there isn't space to deal with everyone individually. It's intended to prick some consciences, which it obviously has done. |