From: bod on
Phil Stovell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:09:48 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:59:39 +0100
>> bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Years back I did 133mph in my Opel Monza on the M4 coming back from
>>> London, this was around the Heston services section. I even overtook a
>>> police dog van and thought...whoops! I came off at Heston and disappeared
>>> into some side roads and parked up in a side road for about 20 minutes,
>>> in case they had radioed through to other traffic plod.
>> Smart move :) These days though some ANPR camera in the van would just
>> send your number to plod HQ and you'd have someone knocking on the door
>> the next day anyway.
>>
>> B2003
>
> Oh go on, more willy waving p-uh-lease.
>
>

Eh!?

Bod
From: Ian Dalziel on
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:58:26 +0100, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian
><toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes
>>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily,
>>sounding much like they were saying:
>>
>>> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of
>>> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I
>>> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through
>>> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways?
>>>
>>> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some
>>> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes
>>> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits
>>> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils
>>> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case.
>>> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing
>>> basis will move the county councils to action.
>>
>>You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed
>>limit".
>
>On the contrary, if you read what I said, I'm not confusing anything!

You're confusing me. Why do you want a 20mph limit if it won't change
the speed people drive at?

From: Ian Jackson on
In message <h5v0665u7prlekeu40ctjecg9offrlkka3(a)4ax.com>, Ian Dalziel
<iandalziel(a)lineone.net> writes
>On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:58:26 +0100, Ian Jackson
><ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <8cajheF11dU56(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian
>><toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes
>>>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily,
>>>sounding much like they were saying:
>>>
>>>> In the village where I live, there is a 30 limit. For a couple of
>>>> hundred yards, in the centre, past the shops, even 20 is too fast. I
>>>> usually drop to around 15. But it's surprising how many thrash through
>>>> at 50 or 60. Would a 20 limit really change their ways?
>>>>
>>>> I'd certainly support a short stretch of 20 limit. However, for some
>>>> reason, it's very difficult to get them. Some of the country lanes
>>>> around here have recently had 40 - and, in a few cases, 30 limits
>>>> introduced - but some of those were a bit of a battle. Parish councils
>>>> and local people seem to meet a brick wall when they present their case.
>>>> It seems that nothing less than wholesale slaughter on a continuing
>>>> basis will move the county councils to action.
>>>
>>>You seem to be confusing "appropriate speed for conditions" with "speed
>>>limit".
>>
>>On the contrary, if you read what I said, I'm not confusing anything!
>
>You're confusing me. Why do you want a 20mph limit if it won't change
>the speed people drive at?
>
It was just a cynical aside - a rhetorical question. Please don't feel
obliged to provide an answer!
--
Ian
From: Brimstone on

"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3tbfx8wgz2x6$.10zuhs13pnro5.dlg(a)40tude.net...
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:33:10 +0100, Brimstone wrote:
>
>>>> That's not the point she's making. Try re-reading her comment in
>>>> context.
>>>
>>> I think she should have said "otherwise law-abiding".
>>>
>> I think she said what she meant to say. Those who condemn other law
>> breakers
>> whilst doing so themselves.
>
> then she is wrong to think working class people do not do that.
>
Indeed, but working class people tend to be more honest about their law
breaking.


From: Brimstone on

"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1qmgrriww1759$.v197q104bc31.dlg(a)40tude.net...
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:34:06 +0100, Brimstone wrote:
>
>> Probably because it's the middle class who are most self-righteous and
>> outspoken.
>
> its still a really bad piece of stereotyping of both working and middle
> classes.
>
In an article such as that there isn't space to deal with everyone
individually. It's intended to prick some consciences, which it obviously
has done.