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From: Conor on 24 Mar 2010 17:02
On 24/03/2010 19:35, Clive George wrote:
> On 24/03/2010 19:00, Conor wrote:
>
>> Firstly it was third in class, not third in the event. Secondly, it was
>> a high altitude event and even the non-turbo J-WRC cars were within 5%
>> of the WRC cars.
>
> Interesting. Traditionally turbos are a massive help at altitude. So why
> wouldn't they help here?

Lack of oxygen. The WRC cars were 60BHP down on power, around 20%.

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Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 24 Mar 2010 17:03
On 24/03/2010 19:39, Elder wrote:
> In article<80v5qoFj2cU1(a)mid.individual.net>, conor(a)gmx.co.uk says...
>> All kudos to him but its been blown out of all proportion by people with
>> no understanding of the sport.
>>
> You miserable yorkshire feck.

Nope, just realist. Recognise it for the achievement it was instead of
portraying it as some unrealistic supercar.

--
Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Clive George on 24 Mar 2010 19:02
On 24/03/2010 21:02, Conor wrote:
> On 24/03/2010 19:35, Clive George wrote:
>> On 24/03/2010 19:00, Conor wrote:
>>
>>> Firstly it was third in class, not third in the event. Secondly, it was
>>> a high altitude event and even the non-turbo J-WRC cars were within 5%
>>> of the WRC cars.
>>
>> Interesting. Traditionally turbos are a massive help at altitude. So why
>> wouldn't they help here?
>
> Lack of oxygen. The WRC cars were 60BHP down on power, around 20%.

Lack of air should affect N/A more than turbos, because you just push in
more air with the latter. It's why they put blowers on plane engines.
Unless of course the turbos are running beyond their capacity, where a
bigger turbo is of course the answer, but I'm guessing that's not an option?

(I think one of the reasons my hire car in the states was so damned
gutless was we were driving at 2000+ metres a lot of the time. Though it
was pretty weedy even lower down).
From: Carl Gibbs on 24 Mar 2010 19:43

"Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:80v5qoFj2cU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> On 24/03/2010 17:49, Carl Gibbs wrote:
>>
>> "Elder" <carl.robson(a)bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2614514f57375ab5989bd1(a)news.individual.net...
>>> http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-
>>> racers
>>>
>>>
>>> This guy is legend status.
>>> --
>>
>> Saw that yesterday on Pistonheads, although I haven't read the whole
>> thing through yet. Properly impressive, and as you say definite legend
>> status!
>
> Actually it isn't as impressive as it sounds.
>
> Firstly it was third in class, not third in the event. Secondly, it was a
> high altitude event and even the non-turbo J-WRC cars were within 5% of
> the WRC cars. Definitely wasn't WRC cars as the gearboxes alone cost
> $400,000 however thats what the story implied he had beaten.
>
> All kudos to him but its been blown out of all proportion by people with
> no understanding of the sport.
>
Errr, completing Rally Mexico in a homemade E30 BMW with no service crew and
actually getting a decent result, I'd call that a pretty awesome
acheivement, irrelevant of the slightly erroneous reporting!

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