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From: Derek C on 8 Aug 2010 01:50
On Aug 7, 10:33 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
<guy.chap...(a)spamcop.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:42:10 +0100, Jim A <j...(a)averyjim.myzen.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >On 08/07/2010 09:27 AM, Mrcheerful wrote:
> >>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/08/07/race-cyclist-deat....
>
> >> another needless death on the roads, with no reason for her to be there.
>
> >I confess I didn't read the story you linked to, but in general, yes,
> >racing on the public highway is inevitably going have an element of
> >risk.  IMHO it should be illegal in the same way as motor racing is
> >illegal on the public highway.
>
> Massed start racing is, but time trials are not, in the same way that
> navigation rallies are not.
>
> Guy
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In my opinion, it ought be possible to close minor roads and rescind
speed limits for a couple of hours to allow sporting events to take
place in the UK, as is the case in the Isle of Man, Belgium and some
other European Countries. Unfortunately there seems to be a culture in
the UK that people are not allowed to enjoy themselves!

Derek C

From: Just zis Guy, you know? on 8 Aug 2010 06:56
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 01:45:54 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
<del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>This is normal behaviour for the psycholist wing of the cycling
>movement,

This is normal behaviour for the Derek wing of the loony fringe
movement, denigrate your opponents in the hope of winning an argument
in which you have no better ideas.

Guy
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From: Nick Finnigan on 8 Aug 2010 08:57
Ret. wrote:
>
> Cheshire police banned such events on Cheshire's roads many years ago -
> because of this type of behaviour. No matter what the cyclists were told
> prior to the race starting - they just ignored it once they got going.

Under what law ?
From: Ian Smith on 8 Aug 2010 09:02
["Followup-To:" header set to uk.rec.cycling.]
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:24:44 +0100, JNugent <jenningsltd(a)fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Mortimer wrote:
>
> > If they are going to run races on public roads, they need to abide
> > by the highway code, and keep the bikes on their own side of the
> > road, not blocking oncoming traffic, and preferably where there
> > are only a few bikes, keep the bikes no more than two abreast as
> > the Highway Code requires to allow other traffic to overtake.
>
> I'm astounded.
>
> That is (or was) absolutely outrageous.
>
> Who on Earth do they think they are?
>
> That driver (who seemed to have thought he was a marshall) was
> clearly guilty of dangerous driving. Tell me you complained to the
> police, please...

Well, if it's the race it seems to be, there was a police escort. I'm
therefore sure that if it happened as Mortimer records there are
plenty of experts and professionals to be called as witnesses. I'm
sure he'll keep us appraised of the progress of the prosecution.

regards, Ian SMith
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From: Derek C on 8 Aug 2010 09:11
On Aug 8, 1:57 pm, Nick Finnigan <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote:
> Ret. wrote:
>
> > Cheshire police banned such events on Cheshire's roads many years ago -
> > because of this type of behaviour. No matter what the cyclists were told
> > prior to the race starting - they just ignored it once they got going.
>
>   Under what law ?

If you are organising an event of this nature, you have to inform the
Police of your intentions. They can refuse permission if they feel
that it is going to cause public order problems. It has apparently got
much more difficult to get permission to run organised bicycle road
races in many parts of the country, due the sort of behaviour
described above. Unfortunately the cyclists and cycle clubs have only
got themselves to blame for this.

Derek C
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