From: thomas on 5 Apr 2010 02:56 If these were really used in the fight "against terror" then it would be acceptable -after all If you're innocent then why are you worried about it ? - especially as every council and just about every shop has a security camera then why not allow the Police as welll ? - the big issue is that such security measures are to investigate parking, disagreeing with the Gov. and rubbish tipping "crimes" Ofcourse why we are having to fight terror is another ball game - blair/usa/bribery/big biz/oil etc :( "McKevvy" <vicko_zoomba(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5881f5bf-c41c-41bc-8754-07238895127e(a)h27g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 4 Apr, 18:41, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> In a recent thread, it was suggested that there was no reason to store >> people's movements in a database. So why, I wonder, is it being done? >> >> Police are secretly photographing up to 14 million motorists a day and >> storing their details for years, it has emerged. >> >> "Images of drivers and their front seat passengers captured by a network >> of >> cameras are being held on a police database without motorists knowledge, >> a >> police document has revealed." >> >> Read >> more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263494/Police-secretly-photo... >> >> They've made a liar out of you Kev. >> >> -- >> The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with >> the >> average voter. - Winston Churchill > > There are cameras on 4 of Scotlands truck roads. One of them is on the > southbound M90 near Jcn 2 and is easily recognised. It's a trailer > painted yellow with a generator and the camera on a vertical boom > about 4 meters high. > > McK.
From: Ret. on 5 Apr 2010 05:04 Brimstone wrote: > In a recent thread, it was suggested that there was no reason to store > people's movements in a database. Who has ever claimed that? Of course there is a reason. So why, I wonder, is it being done? As an aid to crime fighting should it become necessary to check movements of vehicles along a certain road at a certain time - eg following a terrorist incident. > > Police are secretly photographing up to 14 million motorists a day and > storing their details for years, it has emerged. > > "Images of drivers and their front seat passengers captured by a > network of cameras are being held on a police database without > motorists knowledge, a police document has revealed." > > Read more: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263494/Police-secretly-photographing-14million-motorists-passengers-day-keeping-images-years.html#ixzz0k9dC8MEe > > They've made a liar out of you Kev. In what respect? I've accepted that image captures are being stored and kept for several years. My argument is that unless the system is interrogated for a specific reason, your particular image and journey will simply be one of many millions stored as digital data and never viewed by human eye? Who gives a toss? Kev
From: Ret. on 5 Apr 2010 05:05 Brimstone wrote: > "Zaz" <zaz(a)zaz.zaz> wrote in message > news:_s4un.763452$Dy7.469418(a)newsfe26.ams2... >> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:41:26 +0100, "Brimstone" >> <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> Police are secretly photographing up to 14 million motorists a day >>> and storing their details for years, it has emerged. >>> >>> "Images of drivers and their front seat passengers captured by a >>> network of cameras are being held on a police database without >>> motorists knowledge, a police document has revealed." >> >> It would actually save the police a huge amount of money on bandwidth >> bills if they installed computers in roadside cabinets that cropped >> each image so only a picture of the VRN was forwarded to a central >> location. It seems from the very design they've gone for the much more >> expensive option which captures and retains a picture of the car and >> driver. > Of course, because it's the people they're interested in. The number > plate recognition is only a means to an end with the happy bonus of > detecting cars with no VED etc. Do you believe that there is a room full of people physically viewing the many millions of images captured every single day? Kev
From: Ret. on 5 Apr 2010 05:06 McKevvy wrote: > On 4 Apr, 19:00, Zaz <z...(a)zaz.zaz> wrote: >> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:41:26 +0100, "Brimstone" >> <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Police are secretly photographing up to 14 million motorists a day >>> and storing their details for years, it has emerged. >> >>> "Images of drivers and their front seat passengers captured by a >>> network of cameras are being held on a police database without >>> motorists knowledge, a police document has revealed." >> >> It would actually save the police a huge amount of money on bandwidth >> bills if they installed computers in roadside cabinets that cropped >> each image so only a picture of the VRN was forwarded to a central >> location. >> >> It seems from the very design they've gone for the much more >> expensive option which captures and retains a picture of the car and >> driver. > > They would save even more of OUR money by scrapping the whole thing. They would save even more of our money by scrapping the police force entirely. Would that be a good thing? Kev
From: boltar2003 on 6 Apr 2010 05:01
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:56:42 +0100 Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >AHA!! I've just worked out who you are, you're really Victor Meldrew, >aren't you? No , just someone who feels badly let down by the police who seem to spend their time nailing easy targets and can't be arsed to deal with real crime. B2003 |