From: Larrybud on
>>> Between saturday and sunday I rode 60 miles. On sunday on my
>>> way home I am approaching a red signal in the right lane. I am
>>> doing it at speed which would be acceptable while driving.
>>> This woman driving a minivan zooms up on my left and then
>>> changes lanes into the right lane (intending to turn right) to
>>> stop in front of me I have to take evasive action for her.
>>
>> Why did you have to take evasive action? Shouldn't you have
>> been slowing down for the red light that you were approaching?
>
> I am still wondering if you're a troll or just very stupid. She
> cuts me off and nails the brakes. She just shortened my stopping
> space by the length of her minivan and the space in front of her
> to the next vehicle. My rate of slowing was set to use most of
> that space. DUH!

Nah, I'm neither Brent, regardless of your childish name calling.

From: Jim Yanik on
Larrybud <larrybud2002(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9AD65DE736599larrybud2002yahoocom(a)204.153.245.20:

>>>> Between saturday and sunday I rode 60 miles. On sunday on my
>>>> way home I am approaching a red signal in the right lane. I am
>>>> doing it at speed which would be acceptable while driving.
>>>> This woman driving a minivan zooms up on my left and then
>>>> changes lanes into the right lane (intending to turn right) to
>>>> stop in front of me I have to take evasive action for her.
>>>
>>> Why did you have to take evasive action? Shouldn't you have
>>> been slowing down for the red light that you were approaching?
>>
>> I am still wondering if you're a troll or just very stupid. She
>> cuts me off and nails the brakes. She just shortened my stopping
>> space by the length of her minivan and the space in front of her
>> to the next vehicle. My rate of slowing was set to use most of
>> that space. DUH!
>
> Nah, I'm neither Brent, regardless of your childish name calling.
>
>

unless you're on a sandy,dirty,oily,or icy road,bikes can stop in very
short distances. Without tossing yourself over the handlebars....

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Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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From: Brent P on
On 2008-07-09, Larrybud <larrybud2002(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Between saturday and sunday I rode 60 miles. On sunday on my
>>>> way home I am approaching a red signal in the right lane. I am
>>>> doing it at speed which would be acceptable while driving.
>>>> This woman driving a minivan zooms up on my left and then
>>>> changes lanes into the right lane (intending to turn right) to
>>>> stop in front of me I have to take evasive action for her.
>>>
>>> Why did you have to take evasive action? Shouldn't you have
>>> been slowing down for the red light that you were approaching?
>>
>> I am still wondering if you're a troll or just very stupid. She
>> cuts me off and nails the brakes. She just shortened my stopping
>> space by the length of her minivan and the space in front of her
>> to the next vehicle. My rate of slowing was set to use most of
>> that space. DUH!
>
> Nah, I'm neither Brent, regardless of your childish name calling.

It's one or the other here Larry. Either you can't figure out why being
cut off by someone who then brakes requires evasive moves or you did but
wanted to troll. It's the same thing with you one obvious or tired old
topic after another.


From: Brent P on
On 2008-07-09, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote:

> unless you're on a sandy,dirty,oily,or icy road,bikes can stop in very
> short distances. Without tossing yourself over the handlebars....

Um... bicycles take longer to stop than most cars from the same
speed. Basic physics of contact patch and swept braking area are in
play. A road bicycle has very little of each.



From: gpsman on
On Jul 9, 12:23 pm, Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On 2008-07-09, Jim Yanik <jya...(a)abuse.gov> wrote:
>
> > unless you're on a sandy,dirty,oily,or icy road,bikes can stop in very
> > short distances. Without tossing yourself over the handlebars....
>
> Um... bicycles take longer to stop than most cars from the same
> speed.

Gotta cite...?

> Basic physics of contact patch and swept braking area are in
> play. A road bicycle has very little of each.

Have you ever considered just having your mommy drive you to the bus
station?

I have a strong suspicion you couldn't walk there on your own without
experiencing your usual trials and tribulations.
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- gpsman