From: Michael on 10 Jun 2007 05:27
XR8 Sprint wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>> Hey mate, there is more to Australia than your suburb, ever been past
>> the city limits?
>> This is where the accident occurred.
>> Where I live is three hours from Melb, now tell me that you couldn't
>> service that with rail.
>> And if you read my earlier post I *did* mention that most traffic is
>> between capital city's.
>> Mick C
> Whilst you are a strong advocate of rail transport, there are a number
> of factors that need to be considered when looking at rail and road
> transport. I spent 11 years as a transport officer within a rail
> organization so have a fair idea what I am talking about. One of the
> issues with rail transport is that lack of duplicated lines due to cost
> factors therefore trains often sit at sidings waiting to cross other
> trains, which takes time and makes them inefficient.
> Secondly there are numerous times when due to weather conditions trains
> cannot run or can only run at reduced speed. Eg in North West Queensland
> when the temperature reaches above 35 degrees most trains are reduced to
> running at 60km/h or lower depending on how badly the track is buckling.
> The issue occurs due to the fact that the ground temperature can often
> reach above 60 degrees, and traditional wooden sleepers were partially
> replaced with steel sleepers due to the prevalence of termites in the
> areas which chew through wood at a great rate. The steel sleepers
> themselves start to buckle in the high heat. Nowadays most sleepers are
> being replaced with concrete sleepers, however there are still issues
> with those as well. This does not even take into account that when there
> is flooding, track damage can be quite severe and take days to repair.
> Thirdly when there is an derailment with a train which can occur due to
> any number of factors, the time taken to restore the track to working
> condition can be anything from a few hours to several days. In this time
> nothing can move on that line.
> Fourthly, because of the stupidity of early governments, we have the
> situation that between Queensland, NSW, and Victoria are three different
> size rail systems. Queensland uses 3 foot six, New South Wales uses 4
> foot eight, and Victoria uses Five foot two. Queensland has one line
> from New South Wales that uses 4 foot 8 to allow traffic between the
> states, however once the containers reach Brisbane they have to be put
> onto wagons that run on the 3 foot 6 guage.
> I think that gives a fairly clear idea why our rail system is so
> inefficient and is unable to be used for time dependent transport, the
> amount of transhipping between the states is ridiculous.
> It is also the reason why long haul road freight is so prevalent in this
> country as it is able to be moved much faster and if one road is closed
> due to an accident or is in need of repair there are many ways to get
> around it.
Whats your point of veiw, can we get more cargo off the roads?
From: Daryl Walford on 10 Jun 2007 05:35
>> Please explain?
> Well I am assuming they can tell the condition of the motor from the
> service history, you start abusing the motor, the general condition
> declines. I am no motor mechanic, just a thought. But no doubt an
> experienced motor mechanic can tell you the condition of a motor during
> a service?
> I can give you a vague idea of the condition of a motor from just
> listening to it, listening for things like piston slap or a noisy valve
> No doubt a decent motor mechanic could tell more during a service, then
> again you are probably more than right, the thought just occurred to me.
> Just a passing comment.
These are relatively new trucks, the rpm limit is most likely to do with
fuel consumption than anything else.
Diesels can rev to their limiter all day long without doing themselves
any harm but they use more fuel if you use more revs than necessary.
BTW I am a mechanic as is Noddy, Dan, Clockmeister, Athol and many other
regular posters to aus.cars.
From: Clockmeister on 10 Jun 2007 05:40
"Michael" <mickpc(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message
> Clockmeister wrote:
>> "DJ" <mrjay1(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>> clockmeister wrote:
>>>> Slamming into the side of a train was certainly effective but didn't
>>>> get the load to it's intended destination.
>>>> Fuckwits shouldn't be on the road, fullstop. Truck driving is supposed
>>>> to be a professional occupation after all...
>>> One of the biggest problems is that there is a major shortage of drivers
>>> in the fastest growing industry in Australia and many companies will
>>> overlook discrepancies of driving records even though one of the major
>>> requirements is a current driving record from the relevent departments
>>> eg.RTA, and medicals. proving you have a HC or better still an MC
>>> licence, you are usually snapped up by an employer these days as nobody
>>> wants these jobs any longer due to the mad and confusing legislations
>>> and over zealous law enforcement officers wanting to UP his tally.
>>> Secondly, you have a very powerful retail sector as some of those have
>>> been mentioned here that are involved with retail and they want their
>>> stuff yesterday,not today, so therefore the rail is no where near
>>> efficient in many cases when you can have a B-double deliver goods to a
>>> wharehouse say from Syd- Melb or Syd- Bris and especially melb - Bris,
>>> as a train will usually take about 2-3 times longer to get to the
>>> destination.then it has to be sorted and distributed.
>>> Now given that about 95-99% of stuff you'll find in supermarkets,variety
>>> stores and dept stores are imported, as soon as the container is
>>> released from the wharves, it will go by truck and the trailers are
>>> generally unhitched and left at a customer's dock till it has been
>>> emptied then the trailer will be taken away again and taken to a
>>> container park to be de-hired or the container willl be taken to a
>>> transport wharehouse, will be hand or forklift unloaded, stored untill
>>> needed by customer then sent via curtainsider (tautliner) or other
>>> trailer types to be delivered to customer who in turn uses product
>>> themselves or distributes their own.
>>> A friend of mine who has his own shipping and frieght forwarding company
>>> in Sydney has told me that some customers are willing to pay up to $3k
>>> to have a 1 x 40' container brought up from Melb to Syd by truck rather
>>> than train due to the time it takes so they can keep their customer as
>>> sometimes the ship may not stop at Syd from the containers origin.
>>> So, yeah...when they say without trucks, Australia stops, it's not too
>>> far off the mark!!
>> All very valid points, but no judge is going to buy that as a defense for
>> slamming a truck into the side of a train.
>>> It's just the way it is and probably will be for a long time to come.
>> Yep, the culture of "She'll be right, mate", feet dragging and red tape
>> creating is catching up with Australia...
>> Time to kick some arsses are raise the efficiency of the workforce in
>> general, there are simply too many people doing too little IMO.
> Its not the workforce, its the shortsightedness/greed of
> You blame the workforce, so your going to impose regulations to the point
> were people cannot work due to regulations?
> If you want something done properly your going to have to challenge the
> cobwebbed viewpoints of the management. Not blame the people that are
> actually *doing* the work, you put all the blame on the people who are
> doing the work and all you will get is resentment.
> On the other respect if you have a worker that is doing an excellent job,
> he should be rewarded appropriately and given the opportunity to develop
> his career.
> You cannot treat intelligent individuals like school children, either they
> will listen to you and act accordingly or they will turn their backs, to
> your detriment.
> Business in Australia knows it can treat people like children and get away
> with it.
They often have little choice since the workers act like children and they
don't like change. Most are more driven to hide out the back to have a smoke
when the boss isn't watching then driven to do a fair days work for a fair
They need to grow up and start treating people like
> adults, only then will workers care enough to do the right thing.
> You want monkeys then pay peanuts.
All very nice Michael, but I consider the workforce to include management.
It matters not, there are plenty of bludgers in the workforce, from
streetsweepers to upper management the percentage is the same because it is
cultural and ingrained. Shortsightedness is another problem that is choking
long term economic growth potential.
Asians get paid peanuts and they work bloody hard for them. No surprise then
that their economies are booming.
From: Dan--- on 10 Jun 2007 05:51
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:15:39 +0000, reg-john PCM code reading says:
> what sort of trucks??
> weve got mostly c-15 cats and anything over 1600 on the flat is consdiered
> excessive, maybe up to 1800 on some hills to maintain torque for the next
How do you find the c-15 cats in terms of performance and reliability.
My ex boss had big end and head problems with the early C-15's. Although
he most likely has a soft spot for the Series 60 Detroit's which has really
proved to be extremely trouble free. Shame the series 60's cannot be
specced in Kenworths anymore.
From: jonz on 10 Jun 2007 06:09
"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> "jonz" <series11(a)landy> wrote in message
>> yeeehaaaaa, lookout now........... its noddy and the lyncheroos. watch
>> as they run roughshod over the judicial system, haul this bloke from his
>> hospital bed, and hang him from his own bullbar.......cold drinks and
>> sausage sangers will be on sale, fun for all....
> You were born a retard, weren't you?
> I mean, you couldn't get this good at it if you practiced 10 hours a day
> for 60 years.
touching nerves is painful for you huh? should think before you
post...REREAD what you said dumfuk.....