From: Noddy on

"John Hudson" <huddo(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> There's plenty of data from overseas here, maybe the billions of dollars
> damage in the USA will give you a clue.
> - estimated at 330 Billion in the next 20 years.

When truck axle weights & configurations are the same in Australia as they
are in the US (or Europe), some of that data might be relevant. Until then,
it's toilet paper down here.

> Then there's the 5000 (!) people that die every year in trucking accidents
> in the USA.

There's probably 1200 people die in the US every year by getting their head
stuck in a dishwasher too.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: jonz on

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "John Hudson" <huddo(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:fgxbi.12959$wH4.799(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> There's plenty of data from overseas here, maybe the billions of dollars
>> damage in the USA will give you a clue.
>> - estimated at 330 Billion in the next 20 years.
>
> When truck axle weights & configurations are the same in Australia as they
> are in the US (or Europe), some of that data might be relevant. Until
> then, it's toilet paper down here.
>
>> Then there's the 5000 (!) people that die every year in trucking
>> accidents in the USA.
>
> There's probably 1200 people die in the US every year by getting their
> head stuck in a dishwasher too.

such a pity, that you, so far, are not such a
statistic............................however, we live in hope, eh, noddddy
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>


From: Clockmeister on

"Daryl Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Clockmeister wrote:
>> "veritas" <veritas(a)coldmail.con> wrote in message
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>>> Daryl Walford wrote:
>>>> There are many "alternatives" that can prevent a repeat of last
>>>> Tuesday's crash, better roads, better management of road transport
>>>> which may be as simple as paying drivers a lot more so there won't be a
>>>> driver shortage which causes people to work excess hours and we can put
>>>> more freight onto trains but none of those measures will completely
>>>> eliminate the possibility of it happening again.
>>>> As I said previously even the very best drivers can have momentary
>>>> lapses in concentration and thats all it takes.
>>
>> It took more then a momentary lapse of concentraction by the looks of it,
>> more like a reckless act.
>>
>>
> It would only take a short concentration lapse to reduce the stopping
> distance enough to where he had no hope of stopping, he had a 14 tonne
> payload so his gross weight would be approx 34 tonne and that takes a bit
> to stop from 100kph.
> I very much doubt that we will ever know with 100% certainty exactly what
> caused the crash and we both may be partly correct, maybe he wasn't
> concentrating enough, saw the train then after realizing he had no hope of
> stopping he tried to beat it, either way we only only speculating.
>

We know he didn't take evasive action, and we also know that he didn't look
like he was slowing down until the last moments.

We also know it was a bright, clear day and long range visibility was
excellent and we know there are eye witnesses.

We also know he slammed into the train... I accept that he might get away
with bullshitting his way out of this, but I won't accept that he is not
solely responsible.



From: Noddy on

"Michael" <mickpc(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Read the thread again and you might get the gist of my point.

I'd doubt it, but thanks for playing anyway.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: Daryl Walford on
Michael wrote:

> Oh yes and now you can understand why they penalize truck drivers so
> heavily for overloading, not to mention B doubles and the new triples.

What have B doubles or triples (which are far from new) have to do with
anything, their axle loadings are no different to a semi with a single
trailer.



Daryl