From: Noddy on 12 Jun 2007 10:34 "John Hudson" <huddo(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:fgxbi.12959$wH4.799(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > There's plenty of data from overseas here, maybe the billions of dollars > damage in the USA will give you a clue. > - estimated at 330 Billion in the next 20 years. When truck axle weights & configurations are the same in Australia as they are in the US (or Europe), some of that data might be relevant. Until then, it's toilet paper down here. > Then there's the 5000 (!) people that die every year in trucking accidents > in the USA. There's probably 1200 people die in the US every year by getting their head stuck in a dishwasher too. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: jonz on 12 Jun 2007 12:52 "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:466eaf13$0$28994$c30e37c6(a)lon-reader.news.telstra.net... > > "John Hudson" <huddo(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message > news:fgxbi.12959$wH4.799(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > >> There's plenty of data from overseas here, maybe the billions of dollars >> damage in the USA will give you a clue. >> - estimated at 330 Billion in the next 20 years. > > When truck axle weights & configurations are the same in Australia as they > are in the US (or Europe), some of that data might be relevant. Until > then, it's toilet paper down here. > >> Then there's the 5000 (!) people that die every year in trucking >> accidents in the USA. > > There's probably 1200 people die in the US every year by getting their > head stuck in a dishwasher too. such a pity, that you, so far, are not such a statistic............................however, we live in hope, eh, noddddy > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. >
From: Clockmeister on 12 Jun 2007 15:11 "Daryl Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:136rvkgeebeit9b(a)corp.supernews.com... > Clockmeister wrote: >> "veritas" <veritas(a)coldmail.con> wrote in message >> news:Gr5bi.11793$wH4.1190(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>> Daryl Walford wrote: >>>> There are many "alternatives" that can prevent a repeat of last >>>> Tuesday's crash, better roads, better management of road transport >>>> which may be as simple as paying drivers a lot more so there won't be a >>>> driver shortage which causes people to work excess hours and we can put >>>> more freight onto trains but none of those measures will completely >>>> eliminate the possibility of it happening again. >>>> As I said previously even the very best drivers can have momentary >>>> lapses in concentration and thats all it takes. >> >> It took more then a momentary lapse of concentraction by the looks of it, >> more like a reckless act. >> >> > It would only take a short concentration lapse to reduce the stopping > distance enough to where he had no hope of stopping, he had a 14 tonne > payload so his gross weight would be approx 34 tonne and that takes a bit > to stop from 100kph. > I very much doubt that we will ever know with 100% certainty exactly what > caused the crash and we both may be partly correct, maybe he wasn't > concentrating enough, saw the train then after realizing he had no hope of > stopping he tried to beat it, either way we only only speculating. > We know he didn't take evasive action, and we also know that he didn't look like he was slowing down until the last moments. We also know it was a bright, clear day and long range visibility was excellent and we know there are eye witnesses. We also know he slammed into the train... I accept that he might get away with bullshitting his way out of this, but I won't accept that he is not solely responsible.
From: Noddy on 13 Jun 2007 01:38 "Michael" <mickpc(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:yYKbi.13117$wH4.113(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Read the thread again and you might get the gist of my point. I'd doubt it, but thanks for playing anyway. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Daryl Walford on 13 Jun 2007 03:25
Michael wrote: > Oh yes and now you can understand why they penalize truck drivers so > heavily for overloading, not to mention B doubles and the new triples. What have B doubles or triples (which are far from new) have to do with anything, their axle loadings are no different to a semi with a single trailer. Daryl |