From: Noddy on 12 Jun 2007 10:34
"John Hudson" <huddo(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> There's plenty of data from overseas here, maybe the billions of dollars
> damage in the USA will give you a clue.
> - estimated at 330 Billion in the next 20 years.
When truck axle weights & configurations are the same in Australia as they
are in the US (or Europe), some of that data might be relevant. Until then,
it's toilet paper down here.
> Then there's the 5000 (!) people that die every year in trucking accidents
> in the USA.
There's probably 1200 people die in the US every year by getting their head
stuck in a dishwasher too.
From: jonz on 12 Jun 2007 12:52
"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> "John Hudson" <huddo(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>> There's plenty of data from overseas here, maybe the billions of dollars
>> damage in the USA will give you a clue.
>> - estimated at 330 Billion in the next 20 years.
> When truck axle weights & configurations are the same in Australia as they
> are in the US (or Europe), some of that data might be relevant. Until
> then, it's toilet paper down here.
>> Then there's the 5000 (!) people that die every year in trucking
>> accidents in the USA.
> There's probably 1200 people die in the US every year by getting their
> head stuck in a dishwasher too.
such a pity, that you, so far, are not such a
statistic............................however, we live in hope, eh, noddddy
From: Clockmeister on 12 Jun 2007 15:11
"Daryl Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> Clockmeister wrote:
>> "veritas" <veritas(a)coldmail.con> wrote in message
>>> Daryl Walford wrote:
>>>> There are many "alternatives" that can prevent a repeat of last
>>>> Tuesday's crash, better roads, better management of road transport
>>>> which may be as simple as paying drivers a lot more so there won't be a
>>>> driver shortage which causes people to work excess hours and we can put
>>>> more freight onto trains but none of those measures will completely
>>>> eliminate the possibility of it happening again.
>>>> As I said previously even the very best drivers can have momentary
>>>> lapses in concentration and thats all it takes.
>> It took more then a momentary lapse of concentraction by the looks of it,
>> more like a reckless act.
> It would only take a short concentration lapse to reduce the stopping
> distance enough to where he had no hope of stopping, he had a 14 tonne
> payload so his gross weight would be approx 34 tonne and that takes a bit
> to stop from 100kph.
> I very much doubt that we will ever know with 100% certainty exactly what
> caused the crash and we both may be partly correct, maybe he wasn't
> concentrating enough, saw the train then after realizing he had no hope of
> stopping he tried to beat it, either way we only only speculating.
We know he didn't take evasive action, and we also know that he didn't look
like he was slowing down until the last moments.
We also know it was a bright, clear day and long range visibility was
excellent and we know there are eye witnesses.
We also know he slammed into the train... I accept that he might get away
with bullshitting his way out of this, but I won't accept that he is not
From: Noddy on 13 Jun 2007 01:38
"Michael" <mickpc(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message
> Read the thread again and you might get the gist of my point.
I'd doubt it, but thanks for playing anyway.
From: Daryl Walford on 13 Jun 2007 03:25
> Oh yes and now you can understand why they penalize truck drivers so
> heavily for overloading, not to mention B doubles and the new triples.
What have B doubles or triples (which are far from new) have to do with
anything, their axle loadings are no different to a semi with a single