whats difference between CL/LX/Ghia/Zetec
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From: Dr Zoidberg on 15 Jul 2006 12:07 SteveH wrote: > Tim S Kemp <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> SteveH <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Heh. Well, they're not shockingly bad these days, they're a long way >>> from the bottom of the class, but they're also a fair way off the >>> top of the class. >> >> The top and bottom being? > > Well, I wouldn't like to say, really, 'cos it all depends on what > you're after. > > Personally, discounting the 3 series and C-Class for being stupidly > over-priced..... > > Top would be 159. Based on what criteria? -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
From: SteveH on 15 Jul 2006 12:09 Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > SteveH wrote: > > Tim S Kemp <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> SteveH <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >>> Heh. Well, they're not shockingly bad these days, they're a long way > >>> from the bottom of the class, but they're also a fair way off the > >>> top of the class. > >> > >> The top and bottom being? > > > > Well, I wouldn't like to say, really, 'cos it all depends on what > > you're after. > > > > Personally, discounting the 3 series and C-Class for being stupidly > > over-priced..... > > > > Top would be 159. > > Based on what criteria? It's a good balance between a prestige badge, driver satisfaction, engines, equipment and looks. IMHO, of course. -- Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Dr Zoidberg on 15 Jul 2006 12:19 SteveH wrote: > Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > >> SteveH wrote: >>> Tim S Kemp <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> SteveH <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Heh. Well, they're not shockingly bad these days, they're a long >>>>> way from the bottom of the class, but they're also a fair way off >>>>> the top of the class. >>>> >>>> The top and bottom being? >>> >>> Well, I wouldn't like to say, really, 'cos it all depends on what >>> you're after. >>> >>> Personally, discounting the 3 series and C-Class for being stupidly >>> over-priced..... >>> >>> Top would be 159. >> >> Based on what criteria? > > It's a good balance between a prestige badge, driver satisfaction, > engines, equipment and looks. They do look nice , I'll give you that , but they are also noticably more expensive than a lot of the alternatives like the Mondeo. Also I wouldn't buy one until I was sure they were going to be a lot more reliable than the 156. I like the A4 estates myself but I don't think they are worth the extra 6 grand over and above the equivalent Octavia. -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
From: SteveH on 15 Jul 2006 12:26 Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > > It's a good balance between a prestige badge, driver satisfaction, > > engines, equipment and looks. > > They do look nice , I'll give you that , but they are also noticably more > expensive than a lot of the alternatives like the Mondeo. > Also I wouldn't buy one until I was sure they were going to be a lot more > reliable than the 156. The 156 wasn't unreliable if you looked after it. It's just that you actually needed to check the oil from time to time.... admittedly Alfa fucked up the cambelt change interval, but so did lots of other manufacturers. They're the only two faults, really. The 159 has solved both of those, the cambelt has been replaced by a chain on the 4-potters now. > I like the A4 estates myself but I don't think they are worth the extra 6 > grand over and above the equivalent Octavia. True. They also have silly suspension settings - being far to hard for daily use. The 159 does look a bit expensive, coming in at a grand or so more than a Mondeo or Passat, however, the base spec. and engine are on par with higher spec versions of most of the mainstream competition. (Base diesel is, ISTR, 150bhp, for example) -- Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Dr Zoidberg on 15 Jul 2006 12:47
SteveH wrote: > Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > >>> It's a good balance between a prestige badge, driver satisfaction, >>> engines, equipment and looks. >> >> They do look nice , I'll give you that , but they are also noticably >> more expensive than a lot of the alternatives like the Mondeo. >> Also I wouldn't buy one until I was sure they were going to be a lot >> more reliable than the 156. > > The 156 wasn't unreliable if you looked after it. It's just that you > actually needed to check the oil from time to time.... admittedly Alfa > fucked up the cambelt change interval, but so did lots of other > manufacturers. > > They're the only two faults, really. The owner satisfaction surveys suggest otherwise >> I like the A4 estates myself but I don't think they are worth the >> extra 6 grand over and above the equivalent Octavia. > > True. They also have silly suspension settings - being far to hard for > daily use. The 159 does look a bit expensive, coming in at a grand or > so more than a Mondeo or Passat, however, the base spec. and engine > are on par with higher spec versions of most of the mainstream > competition. (Base diesel is, ISTR, 150bhp, for example) But the Mondeo is *very* heavily discounted. An ST TDCI is only about 16.5k for example -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |