From: SteveH on 15 Jul 2006 13:08 Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > > They're the only two faults, really. > > The owner satisfaction surveys suggest otherwise My ownership experiences suggest otherwise. Mind you, I don't use the dealers, which probably helps ;-) > >> I like the A4 estates myself but I don't think they are worth the > >> extra 6 grand over and above the equivalent Octavia. > > > > True. They also have silly suspension settings - being far to hard for > > daily use. The 159 does look a bit expensive, coming in at a grand or > > so more than a Mondeo or Passat, however, the base spec. and engine > > are on par with higher spec versions of most of the mainstream > > competition. (Base diesel is, ISTR, 150bhp, for example) > > But the Mondeo is *very* heavily discounted. > An ST TDCI is only about 16.5k for example There's a reason for that - lags like a Saab 99 Turbo and has a ride that rivals Audis for harshness. Anyway, no-one pays list for a car, do they? -- Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Dr Zoidberg on 15 Jul 2006 14:03 SteveH wrote: > Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > >>> They're the only two faults, really. >> >> The owner satisfaction surveys suggest otherwise > > My ownership experiences suggest otherwise. Wow , conclusions based on a sample of 1 > > Anyway, no-one pays list for a car, do they? Yup , plenty of people do just that , or they get a few hundred quid off as a token gesture , along with some mats and half a tank of petrol. Hell , people still believe that garages give a genuine ?1000 minimum part exchange without loading at least a grand on the price of all their stock -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
From: Adrian on 16 Jul 2006 16:59 SteveH (steve(a)italiancar.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : > True. They also have silly suspension settings - being far to hard for > daily use. Mmmm. My 155's biggest failing was that it was far too bloody hard. The 156 I test drove was - if anything - worse.
From: Dr Zoidberg on 16 Jul 2006 17:20 Adrian wrote: > SteveH (steve(a)italiancar.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying : > >> True. They also have silly suspension settings - being far to hard >> for daily use. > > Mmmm. > > My 155's biggest failing was that it was far too bloody hard. > The 156 I test drove was - if anything - worse. I don't remember the suspension being bad on the 156 I drove. Perhaps I was distracted by the decomposing interior , appaling semi-automatic gearbox that refused to do reverse 50% of the time and the selection of odd noises that I had to guess if they were serious or harmless. That said , this particular 156 had done 90k miles and probably hadn't been well looked after , but it was a total shed. -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
From: SteveH on 16 Jul 2006 17:28
Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > > My 155's biggest failing was that it was far too bloody hard. > > The 156 I test drove was - if anything - worse. > > I don't remember the suspension being bad on the 156 I drove. > > Perhaps I was distracted by the decomposing interior , appaling > semi-automatic gearbox that refused to do reverse 50% of the time and the > selection of odd noises that I had to guess if they were serious or > harmless. > > That said , this particular 156 had done 90k miles and probably hadn't been > well looked after , but it was a total shed. The 'Sillyspeed' box wouldn't have helped and they do benefit from new suspension bushes from time to time. What spec. was it? We have a base / Lusso (depends on model year and who you talk to.....) spec. which is fine - compliant ride, without losing the handling the 156 is famous for. -- Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # |