From: leonard78sp on
On Nov 10, 10:31 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> Even the prototype is only $100K.
>
> http://www.planetanalog.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218400113&cid....
>
> Leave the big engine in there for the road trips.
>
> The unsprung weight doubles and the batteries might not always be near
> the original design center of mass but aside from that it's a really
> good idea.
>
> Bret Cahill

•• It is a stupid idea suitable only for men who
have money to burn and time to waste.

––  ––
Political correctness is destroying Europe.

America will be the next down the PC tube
greased by academic idiots like Scott Erb,
Noam Chumpsky, and Ward Churchill, and
Slick Willy & Hilly, Algore & Pelosi, and
now Barak Hussein Muhammad Obama, too.
From: Brent on
On 2009-11-13, leonard78sp(a)gmail.com <leonard78sp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 10:31?am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> Even the prototype is only $100K.
>>
>> http://www.planetanalog.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218400113&cid...
>>
>> Leave the big engine in there for the road trips.
>>
>> The unsprung weight doubles and the batteries might not always be near
>> the original design center of mass but aside from that it's a really
>> good idea.

"What makes our approach different is we don't need to modify anything
in existing vehicles to turn them into a hybrid," said Perry. "We
install the motor in the space between the brake mechanism and the hub
without any other modifications."

I wish the image had the resolution to be readable, but that system
looks like it would push the wheels out (by going between the wheel
and the brake) and disturb the suspension geometry that would require
other changes.

The car would not drive well with all the battery weight and changed
suspension geometry without numerous other changes.

If there is something that hangs on the inboard side it might work by
making FWD cars be RWD cars in electric mode, but it would interfere
with drive shafts in the front on FWD cars and the rear axle or drive
shafts on RWD cars. Front hubs or spindles on RWD cars won't accept
something hanging inside the brake very well in most cases.

From: leonard78sp on
On Nov 12, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> .wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:12:39 -0500, "Paul E. Schoen"


> Peak oil is always a few years ahead.

•• "Peak Oil" at the present time, has evolved
from a production modeling resource into
a marketing scam.

It worked quite well in 1956 to accurately
predict that United States oil production
would peak between 1965 and 1970. But
when Hubbert turned to foreign sources
he lost his way not understanding the way
Arabs and Russians do business,

Unquestionably, Peak Oil's models were
responsible for the surge in prices for crude in
the futures markets. Added to that the API's
reluctance to accept the concept of "abiotic oil"
allowed the Sa'uds and Russians to conceal
their increased resources by drilling their old
unproductive holes deeper.

>  Cheap energy fueled the flight to the
> >suburbs and the inherently wasteful concept of long commutes and sprawling
> >individual houses for small families and individuals.
>
> Cheap oil changed a predominantly rural, farming society into a
> primarily urban one.
>
>  Auto makers and oil
> >companies made more profits as such a lifestyle became more popular.
>
> Of course. In the process they made us far, far more efficient and
> prosperous and healthy than we had been.
>
>  But
> >there is a finite amount of oil in the ground,

•• Bullshit!!!! There is ONE well in the south
Atlantic (still under development) that has
reserves sufficient to supply USA with all
its' needs for centuries.

In neighbouring fields, Exxon, BP, China,
Saudi Arabia, etc, are all drilling 10 miles
below the surface.

Want to know more Google for "Tupi",
Petrobras, Sustainable oil, "Deep Hot
Biosphere" ...

and even though we are
> >unlikely to "run out" suddenly like draining a gas tank, it will become
> >increasingly costly to extract, and price will rise exponentially as demand
> >continues to increase, until most people simply will not have the money to
> >afford it.

•• BULLSHIT!!
> They will buy less as the price increases. This will happen slowly,
> and people will adapt.
From: Bret Cahill on
> > Peak oil is always a few years ahead.
>
> •• "Peak Oil" at the present time, has evolved
>     from a production modeling resource into
>     a marketing scam.

Hey, he's on _your_ side.

Anyway how's your "CO2 Is Good for You" video coming along?

Remember to have a large sign in the background that tells everyone
you are inhaling "100% natural organic CO2."


Bret Cahill


From: leonard78sp on
On Nov 13, 3:08 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > Peak oil is always a few years ahead.
>
> > •• "Peak Oil" at the present time, has evolved
> >     from a production modeling resource into
> >     a marketing scam.
>
> Hey, he's on _your_ side.
>
> Anyway how's your "CO2 Is Good for You" video coming along?
>
> Remember to have a large sign in the background that tells everyone
> you are inhaling "100% natural organic CO2."

•• after you, sucker!!!