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From: Clocky on 30 Jun 2010 19:35 F Murtz wrote: > Doug Jewell wrote: >> PHATRS wrote: >>> Couldn't believe my eyes the other day. >>> >>> Car-load of people rocks up at my local Indian restaurant as I'm >>> leaving. Woman in the front seat is holding an infant in her hands... >>> >>> FFS >> Around 40 years ago, you would have posted in amazement... >> "Woman wasn't even nursing the baby, she had it strapped into some >> capsule in the back seat. Imagine trusting a device to hold the baby. >> She wouldn't be able to settle it if it started crying. She wouldn't >> even be able to breastfeed it. FFS" >> I'm not condoning what she did, just making a point that things have >> changed a hell of a lot in a relatively short period of time. In this >> day and age, insufficient restraint is pretty daft - especially when >> the government gives you $5k for having a kid, and a baby seat costs >> about 1/25th of that. There should be absolutely no "can't afford >> it" excuses. > > > I would like to see the figures for number of babies killed in that > circumstance. I realise that you would have to collect figures in some > place without belt laws or does someone have pre belt figures? > We have been indoctrinated to believe that the instant you fail to > buckle up we are in imminent danger.The reality is that the statistics > of death caused by not wearing belts against kms traveled are very > low. Most people can drive all their life without being in a > situation where a seat belt would save them.I have driven for over 50 > years (even rolled a vehicle without a seat belt) and have never been > in a situation where a seat belt would have saved me. > This does not mean that I do not think that seat belts are useful, > they are an easy to use extra safety measure against that one in a > million chance. > Parents who think it is ok to drive around without having their kids properly restrained in this day and age are unfit parents, plain and simple.
From: Albm&ctd on 3 Jul 2010 22:08 In article <4c2bd4a4$0$28656$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, notgonn(a)happen.com says... > F Murtz wrote: > > Doug Jewell wrote: > >> PHATRS wrote: > >>> Couldn't believe my eyes the other day. > >>> > >>> Car-load of people rocks up at my local Indian restaurant as I'm > >>> leaving. Woman in the front seat is holding an infant in her hands... > >>> > >>> FFS > >> Around 40 years ago, you would have posted in amazement... > >> "Woman wasn't even nursing the baby, she had it strapped into some > >> capsule in the back seat. Imagine trusting a device to hold the baby. > >> She wouldn't be able to settle it if it started crying. She wouldn't > >> even be able to breastfeed it. FFS" > >> I'm not condoning what she did, just making a point that things have > >> changed a hell of a lot in a relatively short period of time. In this > >> day and age, insufficient restraint is pretty daft - especially when > >> the government gives you $5k for having a kid, and a baby seat costs > >> about 1/25th of that. There should be absolutely no "can't afford > >> it" excuses. > > > > > > I would like to see the figures for number of babies killed in that > > circumstance. I realise that you would have to collect figures in some > > place without belt laws or does someone have pre belt figures? > > We have been indoctrinated to believe that the instant you fail to > > buckle up we are in imminent danger.The reality is that the statistics > > of death caused by not wearing belts against kms traveled are very > > low. Most people can drive all their life without being in a > > situation where a seat belt would save them.I have driven for over 50 > > years (even rolled a vehicle without a seat belt) and have never been > > in a situation where a seat belt would have saved me. > > This does not mean that I do not think that seat belts are useful, > > they are an easy to use extra safety measure against that one in a > > million chance. > > > > Parents who think it is ok to drive around without having their kids > properly restrained in this day and age are unfit parents, plain and simple. > Early '70 saw a baby thrown outside of a vehicle with mother gripping it's arm. Low speed accident and baby was unharmed not unarmed (assuming crapped nappy). Could have grown up with one longer arm though and been renamed YoYo. Baby on board now it's not now it is. Al -- I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
From: hippo on 4 Jul 2010 02:02 Albm&ctd wrote: > > In article <4c2bd4a4$0$28656$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, notgonn(a)happen.com > says... > > F Murtz wrote: > > > Doug Jewell wrote: > > >> PHATRS wrote: > > >>> Couldn't believe my eyes the other day. > > >>> > > >>> Car-load of people rocks up at my local Indian restaurant as I'm > > >>> leaving. Woman in the front seat is holding an infant in her hands... > > >>> > > >>> FFS > > >> Around 40 years ago, you would have posted in amazement... > > >> "Woman wasn't even nursing the baby, she had it strapped into some > > >> capsule in the back seat. Imagine trusting a device to hold the baby. > > >> She wouldn't be able to settle it if it started crying. She wouldn't > > >> even be able to breastfeed it. FFS" > > >> I'm not condoning what she did, just making a point that things have > > >> changed a hell of a lot in a relatively short period of time. In this > > >> day and age, insufficient restraint is pretty daft - especially when > > >> the government gives you $5k for having a kid, and a baby seat costs > > >> about 1/25th of that. There should be absolutely no "can't afford > > >> it" excuses. > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the figures for number of babies killed in that > > > circumstance. I realise that you would have to collect figures in some > > > place without belt laws or does someone have pre belt figures? > > > We have been indoctrinated to believe that the instant you fail to > > > buckle up we are in imminent danger.The reality is that the statistics > > > of death caused by not wearing belts against kms traveled are very > > > low. Most people can drive all their life without being in a > > > situation where a seat belt would save them.I have driven for over 50 > > > years (even rolled a vehicle without a seat belt) and have never been > > > in a situation where a seat belt would have saved me. > > > This does not mean that I do not think that seat belts are useful, > > > they are an easy to use extra safety measure against that one in a > > > million chance. > > > > > > > Parents who think it is ok to drive around without having their kids > > properly restrained in this day and age are unfit parents, plain and simple. > > > Early '70 saw a baby thrown outside of a vehicle with mother gripping it's arm. > Low speed accident and baby was unharmed not unarmed (assuming crapped nappy). > Could have grown up with one longer arm though and been renamed YoYo. > Baby on board > now it's not > now it is. > > Al Who was the mother though? Yo-Yo Ma? -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: Albm&ctd on 4 Jul 2010 02:42
In article <i0p850$3e9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au says... > Albm&ctd wrote: > > > > In article <4c2bd4a4$0$28656$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, notgonn(a)happen.com > > says... > > > F Murtz wrote: > > > > Doug Jewell wrote: > > > >> PHATRS wrote: > > > >>> Couldn't believe my eyes the other day. > > > >>> > > > >>> Car-load of people rocks up at my local Indian restaurant as I'm > > > >>> leaving. Woman in the front seat is holding an infant in her hands... > > > >>> > > > >>> FFS > > > >> Around 40 years ago, you would have posted in amazement... > > > >> "Woman wasn't even nursing the baby, she had it strapped into some > > > >> capsule in the back seat. Imagine trusting a device to hold the baby. > > > >> She wouldn't be able to settle it if it started crying. She wouldn't > > > >> even be able to breastfeed it. FFS" > > > >> I'm not condoning what she did, just making a point that things have > > > >> changed a hell of a lot in a relatively short period of time. In this > > > >> day and age, insufficient restraint is pretty daft - especially when > > > >> the government gives you $5k for having a kid, and a baby seat costs > > > >> about 1/25th of that. There should be absolutely no "can't afford > > > >> it" excuses. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the figures for number of babies killed in that > > > > circumstance. I realise that you would have to collect figures in some > > > > place without belt laws or does someone have pre belt figures? > > > > We have been indoctrinated to believe that the instant you fail to > > > > buckle up we are in imminent danger.The reality is that the statistics > > > > of death caused by not wearing belts against kms traveled are very > > > > low. Most people can drive all their life without being in a > > > > situation where a seat belt would save them.I have driven for over 50 > > > > years (even rolled a vehicle without a seat belt) and have never been > > > > in a situation where a seat belt would have saved me. > > > > This does not mean that I do not think that seat belts are useful, > > > > they are an easy to use extra safety measure against that one in a > > > > million chance. > > > > > > > > > > Parents who think it is ok to drive around without having their kids > > > properly restrained in this day and age are unfit parents, plain and > simple. > > > > > Early '70 saw a baby thrown outside of a vehicle with mother gripping it's > arm. > > Low speed accident and baby was unharmed not unarmed (assuming crapped > nappy). > > Could have grown up with one longer arm though and been renamed YoYo. > > Baby on board > > now it's not > > now it is. > > > > Al > > Who was the mother though? Yo-Yo Ma? > Dunno but they both (driver and mother) looked stoned. It was the most stupid accident I'd ever seen (includes all of my own). A little while later, mother had a bit of a delay reaction before freaking out... my baby my baby (like a dingo didn't take it or anything, it was getting looked after by a lady at the shop I worked). Oh the misty melty '70s memories, poorly recollected probably. Al -- I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html |