Brakes not applied in Prius crash
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From: hippo on 19 Mar 2010 08:47 Sylvia Else wrote: > > On 19/03/2010 3:48 PM, hippo wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >> On 19/03/2010 11:23 AM, PaulpULVITZKA wrote: > >>> > >>> and > >>> not worry about thinking and driving the thing, just sit and relax. > >> > >> I'd like one of those. When will they be available? > >> > >> Sylvia. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > Been around for years - it's called 'public transport' > > > > I must have overlooked the "relax" aspect. > > Sylvia. > > From my observations there seem to be two options: Gen Y - have your ipod so loud that you're oblivious to the fact that everyone else is quite angrily unable to relax; The rest of us - find a book so absorbing that not only do you lose track of your surroundings, but occasionally you actually get carried past your station! -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: Diesel Damo on 19 Mar 2010 08:53 On Mar 19, 11:02 am, "Sekula" <nore...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > The only limits to our realization of tomorrow will be > our doubts of today. No, it will be other people's doubts of today. There are plenty of real scientists out there pushing the envelope, but because they don't agree with 100-year-old science they are considered crackpots. Just like all the good scientists before them were considered crackpots.
From: Noddy on 19 Mar 2010 09:03 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4ba36d5d$0$8832$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > LOL but I doubt such dumb behavior is confined to Americans. You're not familiar with the term "Only in America", huh? :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Jason James on 19 Mar 2010 10:29 "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote in message news:4ba3015e$0$11030$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > On 19/03/2010 11:02 AM, Sekula wrote: >> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1029332 >> > > While I suspect that the report is correct, I'd have to wonder about the > wisdom of assuming that logs from a computerised control system accurately > reflect what the driver was doing when something is alleged to have gone > wrong. > > I suppose a Prius's brake pedals are linked directly to the brakes, but > the throttle pedal presumably goes via the computer. If the input to the > computer said that the pedal was fully pressed, then the computer would > both act accordingly, and log the fact that the pedal was pressed. Whether > or not it actually was. With quality digital controlled systems, there is usually a communications port, solely for fault diagnosis. This port can also be monitored with a paper-recorder as an event recorder. The system we had, recorded the input status-change, then all the actions initiated by the uP controlled system. One parameter which was standard, was the control input "acknowledgement" generated by the processor, which always followed a control or an input status change. Jason
From: Bernd Felsche on 19 Mar 2010 13:08
Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 19/03/2010 11:02 AM, Sekula wrote: >> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1029332 >While I suspect that the report is correct, I'd have to wonder about the >wisdom of assuming that logs from a computerised control system >accurately reflect what the driver was doing when something is alleged >to have gone wrong. It's like any other witness: Perspective and recollection. >I suppose a Prius's brake pedals are linked directly to the brakes, but Must be. Otherwise would not be allowed on the road - though that will change fairly soon with electronically-controlled self-servo disc brakes. >the throttle pedal presumably goes via the computer. If the input to the >computer said that the pedal was fully pressed, then the computer would >both act accordingly, and log the fact that the pedal was pressed. >Whether or not it actually was. It's a matter of perspective. What was observed and how it was interpreted. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | If builders built buildings the way programmers X against HTML mail | wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that / \ and postings | came along would destroy civilization. |