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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Jul 2010 15:19
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:21:54 +0200, Dave U. Random wrote:

>>The question I would ask is, did you add the right amount for the amount
>>of gas in the tank? There are two size bottles, 1 for up to 12 gallons
>>and one for up to 22 gallons. In this case, more is not better since I
>>added the 22 gal additive and then put in 10 gallons, and had a similar
>>problem to yours.
>
> I used the one for 12-gallons, and filled up the gas tank with gas
> immediately.
>
> The local auto parts store had a buy-one-get-one-free deal on it. I still
> have 1 unused bottle, which I probably will not use in my other car.

Interesting. I had (have) an '85 Corolla GTS that at about 130,000 miles
started knocking when there was a load on the engine. I have always used
'quality' gas, brand name stuff, and it was suggested I use Techron. I
zapped it with a bottle for 12 gals, filled with good gas, and then
started using Chevron until they left New England. One bottle every 40-50
tankfulls and the car never knocked again!



From: hls on 11 Jul 2010 18:14

"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:dPo_n.7386$Zp1.914(a)newsfe15.iad...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:21:54 +0200, Dave U. Random wrote:
>
>>>The question I would ask is, did you add the right amount for the amount
>>>of gas in the tank? There are two size bottles, 1 for up to 12 gallons
>>>and one for up to 22 gallons. In this case, more is not better since I
>>>added the 22 gal additive and then put in 10 gallons, and had a similar
>>>problem to yours.
>>
>> I used the one for 12-gallons, and filled up the gas tank with gas
>> immediately.
>>
>> The local auto parts store had a buy-one-get-one-free deal on it. I still
>> have 1 unused bottle, which I probably will not use in my other car.
>
> Interesting. I had (have) an '85 Corolla GTS that at about 130,000 miles
> started knocking when there was a load on the engine. I have always used
> 'quality' gas, brand name stuff, and it was suggested I use Techron. I
> zapped it with a bottle for 12 gals, filled with good gas, and then
> started using Chevron until they left New England. One bottle every 40-50
> tankfulls and the car never knocked again!

I have never had problems with it either, no matter what concentration I
used it.
I personally think this is BS.

IIRC, Techron is not the type of chemical that would attack injectors,
seals, etc.

Be sure you dont have wet fuel...I mean REALLY wet fuel.
That still happens at times.

You may well have some injectors that are not working properly.

From: chuckcar on 11 Jul 2010 22:43
"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in
news:naKdnTcdp8Lf36fRnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com:

>
> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:dPo_n.7386$Zp1.914(a)newsfe15.iad...
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:21:54 +0200, Dave U. Random wrote:
>>
>>>>The question I would ask is, did you add the right amount for the
>>>>amount of gas in the tank? There are two size bottles, 1 for up to
>>>>12 gallons and one for up to 22 gallons. In this case, more is not
>>>>better since I added the 22 gal additive and then put in 10 gallons,
>>>>and had a similar problem to yours.
>>>
>>> I used the one for 12-gallons, and filled up the gas tank with gas
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>> The local auto parts store had a buy-one-get-one-free deal on it. I
>>> still have 1 unused bottle, which I probably will not use in my
>>> other car.
>>
>> Interesting. I had (have) an '85 Corolla GTS that at about 130,000
>> miles started knocking when there was a load on the engine. I have
>> always used 'quality' gas, brand name stuff, and it was suggested I
>> use Techron. I zapped it with a bottle for 12 gals, filled with good
>> gas, and then started using Chevron until they left New England. One
>> bottle every 40-50 tankfulls and the car never knocked again!
>
> I have never had problems with it either, no matter what concentration
> I used it.
> I personally think this is BS.
>
> IIRC, Techron is not the type of chemical that would attack injectors,
> seals, etc.
>
> Be sure you dont have wet fuel...I mean REALLY wet fuel.
> That still happens at times.
>
Indeed. When I was growing up I worked at gas stations at one point. One of
the last things you did was coat the last 6" of the "dipstick" for the
tanks and see if it found water. A few months back I saked the guy at the
local self serve about it and he had no idea what I was talking about.

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Jul 2010 23:31
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:43:10 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in
> news:naKdnTcdp8Lf36fRnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com:
>
>
>> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:dPo_n.7386$Zp1.914(a)newsfe15.iad...
>>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:21:54 +0200, Dave U. Random wrote:
>>>
>>>>>The question I would ask is, did you add the right amount for the
>>>>>amount of gas in the tank? There are two size bottles, 1 for up to 12
>>>>>gallons and one for up to 22 gallons. In this case, more is not better
>>>>>since I added the 22 gal additive and then put in 10 gallons, and had
>>>>>a similar problem to yours.
>>>>
>>>> I used the one for 12-gallons, and filled up the gas tank with gas
>>>> immediately.
>>>>
>>>> The local auto parts store had a buy-one-get-one-free deal on it. I
>>>> still have 1 unused bottle, which I probably will not use in my other
>>>> car.
>>>
>>> Interesting. I had (have) an '85 Corolla GTS that at about 130,000
>>> miles started knocking when there was a load on the engine. I have
>>> always used 'quality' gas, brand name stuff, and it was suggested I use
>>> Techron. I zapped it with a bottle for 12 gals, filled with good gas,
>>> and then started using Chevron until they left New England. One bottle
>>> every 40-50 tankfulls and the car never knocked again!
>>
>> I have never had problems with it either, no matter what concentration I
>> used it.
>> I personally think this is BS.
>>
>> IIRC, Techron is not the type of chemical that would attack injectors,
>> seals, etc.
>>
>> Be sure you dont have wet fuel...I mean REALLY wet fuel. That still
>> happens at times.
>>
> Indeed. When I was growing up I worked at gas stations at one point. One
> of the last things you did was coat the last 6" of the "dipstick" for the
> tanks and see if it found water. A few months back I saked the guy at the
> local self serve about it and he had no idea what I was talking about.


Yeah, it was a kind of grease that would change color when there was water
in the tank. (I think a lot of us pumped gas for a while...)


From: Ray O on 12 Jul 2010 00:39

"Dave U. Random" <anonymous(a)anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message
news:1808f7e54dd776c59e619fa533bc2ecf(a)anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
> >Did you add the fuel injector cleaner to cure some kind of problem or
>>did you add it as a preventative measure?
>
> Preventive.
> And was hoping to get better mpg (I get about 20 now)
>
>>In the future, do not routinely add
>>fuel injector cleaner unless you are trying to address a specific
>>symptom because over use can damage the injectors, fuel lines,
>>seals, and idle >air control valve.
>
> OK.
> I wish Chevron would mention that on their product website.
>

Chevron doesn't mention that on their web site because they would sell less
product.

If it was a good idea to routinely add fuel injector cleaner, automakers
would put it on the list of maintenance items in the owner's manual and
factory service manuals.

As a former factory rep, I can assure you that it is not necessary to
routinely add fuel injector cleaner as a preventative measure. If anything
the quality of fuel at the pumps seems to have improved over the years,
reducing the need for fuel additives. The same goes for motor oil,
transmission fluid, and coolant additives.

At this point, use up the any remaining fuel as quickly as possible, re-fill
the tank to dilute what is left, and if that doesn't work, clean the
throttle body and IAC valve.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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