From: Fraser Johnston on

"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> All,
>
> I've got a little Komatsu FG-12 1 tonne forklift that needs a new engine, and
> I was wondering if anyone is in the know about where to find either a good
> used one or a decent rebuilder.
>
> It runs a Toyota 4P on petrol, which is an industrial engine with a hydraulic
> pump drive outlet hanging off the left front. It's a 1.3 litre 4 cylinder
> that kinda looks like a cross between a 12R and a 3K, and while it seems like
> a solid little engine it's off it's nut and needs to be rebuilt as it has
> sludge around an inch thick under the rocker cover and the oil rings are
> fucked. Half an hour of using the thing and my shed is full of enough putrid
> burnt oil smell that I have to go outside and let it air out for a while.
>
> There's not a lot of info around on 4P engines, but from what I can tell
> these little Komatsu forks came fitted with either the Toyota 4P or a Nissan
> H20. If I could find a reasonable running 4P I'd do a straight swap for this
> one and put the original engine aside to rebuild later when I have time, but
> if I could get a H20 and fit that without too much trouble I'd give that a go
> as well.
>
> Anyway, if anyone knows of anything I'd be grateful for any help.

Can't help with finding one but if you find one in WA and need someone to
organise something over here I'm more than happy to help. I find you always
find what you want on ebay as local pickup only in another state.

Fraser



From: Fraser Johnston on

"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Are you sure the bits are available to rebuild it?
>
> They are in the US at reasonable prices.
>
> Apparently these little 4P engines were used mainly in commerical equipment
> destined for the Japanese domestic market, and in some US based machines. I
> think they were even used in some very small early model US based trucks like
> a "Tundra" or so. You can buy complete "rebuilder" kits through US based Ebay
> sellers for around 700 bucks which includes everything, but the problem for
> me is that I need to use the fork now and don't have time to rebuild the
> engine for a while.
>
>> Neither of the two forklift engines I've been inside of have been what
>> they seemed (ie standard industrial engines). One was a Mitsubishi,
>> the other a Mazda and both engines were oddballs, presumably built
>> especially for the forklift manufacturer. No internal parts serviced,
>> no parts lists in existence and very little that's interchangeable
>> with other engines.
>>
>> Plus a hundred others chasing replacement engines.
>>
>> Neither forklift was anything like a viable proposition to resurrect,
>> particularly when you could buy a used forklift complete for very
>> little money.
>
> This is actually a great little fork.
>
> Early 90's model with perfect hydraulics, two stage container mast, auto
> trans, pneumatic tyres, good brakes etc. It's a great little machine that
> works well for everything I want, but it's just a shame that like so many
> forklifts at the hands of careless owners the engine never got looked at
> unless it stopped.
>
>> You might be better off looking for a forklift attachment for the
>> bobcat if you only need to lift a tonne! :)
>
> I actually sold the Bobcat to a bloke in QLD a couple of months ago, as it
> was going to be too big for what I wanted. The thing weighed nearly 4 tonne
> and had a very wide footprint which made it unsuitable for some of the narrow
> track landscaping that the wife wants to do. A shame really as I put a lot of
> time and effort into turning it into a decent machine, but it's up in your
> part of the world now.
>
> I need another machine, and fairly quickly now as I need to get water tanks
> in soon, and I'm tossing up between a 1 tonne sized bobcat or a Kubota
> tractor with a backhoe.

I've got a client that does heavy machinery like D10 dozers and they love their
Toyota Husky if that helps. They reckon it is the best thing since sliced
bread.

Fraser


From: Noddy on

"Brad" <bradleyden(a)spammail.com> wrote in message
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> While you were ebaying you should have seen the complete rebuild kit for
> the
> motor for a bit under a grand. It's in the states but should be considered
> if the rest of the fork is worth saving. I had to buy a starter motor for
> mine today.

I did, thanks, and I'll probably end up with one of those kits as well as a
propane conversion kit at some point down the track. It's a great little
fork well worth spending the money on. I was just looking for a quick
temporary fix that'll get me out of trouble until I've got time to fix it
properly.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: Noddy on

"hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
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> Just a thought. IIRC, the two tractors that many state railways used to
> use had a governed version of the early Corona (1600? - model unknown)
> engine in them, usually running LPG. What's the chance on compatibility
> with size, mounts, etc? Just thought of it because there are still heaps
> around in various stages of repair at caravan and boat yards.

Thanks for that. I'll have a look into it.

I'm not really fussed about what engine goes back into the thing as long as
it can be made to fit relatively easily and can drive the hydraulic pump.

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Noddy.


From: Noddy on

"Fraser Johnston" <ftrust(a)iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> I've got a client that does heavy machinery like D10 dozers and they love
> their Toyota Husky if that helps. They reckon it is the best thing since
> sliced bread.

I know a couple of people with Husky's and they swear by them. Trouble is
that I've decided a backhoe would be a worthwhile tool for some of the stuff
I have planned, and while you can get backhoe attachments for bobcats none
of them look anywhere near as good as a dedicated tractor unit.

I'm still open to ideas and haven't committed myself to anything, but I'm
also considering that after the machine has finished it's "heavy" work
getting the gardens established it'll be used for maintenance and a small
tractor is probably going to be easier for the wife to use :")

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Regards,
Noddy.