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From: Rick on 22 Jul 2010 11:12 "Kellerman" <"kellerman <snot> wrote in message news:F7ednY9JtO7li9XRnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > On 19/07/2010 15:37, Trev wrote: >> Hi all >> Fusion 14tdi has leaking injector/s. I had this last year and it turned >> out to be the injector seal on one cylinder. Looking round the net it >> seems to be a regular problem on this engine anyone have any tips to cure >> it or is it going cost me on a regular basis? >> Thanks >> Trev > Ask a Vectra B owner the same question. Injector seals fail in the 2.0 and > 2.2dti (ex-fiat) engine. Causes starting problem if the car is parked with > the engine uphill (!) and costs £500 to fix. > -- > > Still we've only been making engines now for around 120 years, so you can't really expect the most common problems to have been ironed out already, I mean why make a component out of metal, that you know is going to last for at least a hundred thousand miles, when you can make it out of plastic and almost guarantee that it's going to randomly disintegrate at any time within 60,000 miles, probably causing catastrophic damage to the engine in the process.
From: Mrcheerful on 22 Jul 2010 11:40 Kellerman" < wrote: > On 19/07/2010 15:37, Trev wrote: >> Hi all >> Fusion 14tdi has leaking injector/s. I had this last year and it >> turned out to be the injector seal on one cylinder. Looking round >> the net it seems to be a regular problem on this engine anyone have >> any tips to cure it or is it going cost me on a regular basis? >> Thanks >> Trev > Ask a Vectra B owner the same question. Injector seals fail in the 2.0 > and 2.2dti (ex-fiat) engine. Causes starting problem if the car is > parked with the engine uphill (!) and costs �500 to fix. that is usually caused by an air leak at the fuel filter.
From: Kellerman "kellerman on 23 Jul 2010 05:26 On 22/07/2010 16:40, Mrcheerful wrote: > Kellerman"< wrote: >> On 19/07/2010 15:37, Trev wrote: >>> Hi all >>> Fusion 14tdi has leaking injector/s. I had this last year and it >>> turned out to be the injector seal on one cylinder. Looking round >>> the net it seems to be a regular problem on this engine anyone have >>> any tips to cure it or is it going cost me on a regular basis? >>> Thanks >>> Trev >> Ask a Vectra B owner the same question. Injector seals fail in the 2.0 >> and 2.2dti (ex-fiat) engine. Causes starting problem if the car is >> parked with the engine uphill (!) and costs �500 to fix. > > that is usually caused by an air leak at the fuel filter. > > Alas, not in my case. That was checked and found to be OK. The leak-off pipes can also cause that, but they were changed because of a fuel leak. The original rubber pipe perished (common fault apparently) and was replaced with a much better quality pipe as now supplied by Vauxhall. Was better after this, you could leave it for a day or two nose up but go away for a week or more parked up-hill and forget about starting it in a hurry. The cure was simple - park it nose down or on the level. Trouble is with those engines is that if the leak-off pipes (very cheap) or injector seals (�500) doesn't fix it then the dealers start talking about the injector pump (�1200). Car was worth �1700 trade-in so off it went when a suitable replacement came along. Dave -- Blow my nose to email me
From: Mrcheerful on 24 Jul 2010 04:21 Kellerman" < wrote: > On 22/07/2010 16:40, Mrcheerful wrote: >> Kellerman"< wrote: >>> On 19/07/2010 15:37, Trev wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> Fusion 14tdi has leaking injector/s. I had this last year and it >>>> turned out to be the injector seal on one cylinder. Looking round >>>> the net it seems to be a regular problem on this engine anyone have >>>> any tips to cure it or is it going cost me on a regular basis? >>>> Thanks >>>> Trev >>> Ask a Vectra B owner the same question. Injector seals fail in the >>> 2.0 and 2.2dti (ex-fiat) engine. Causes starting problem if the car >>> is parked with the engine uphill (!) and costs �500 to fix. >> >> that is usually caused by an air leak at the fuel filter. >> >> > Alas, not in my case. That was checked and found to be OK. > The leak-off pipes can also cause that, but they were changed because > of a fuel leak. The original rubber pipe perished (common fault > apparently) and was replaced with a much better quality pipe as now > supplied by Vauxhall. Was better after this, you could leave it for a > day or two nose up but go away for a week or more parked up-hill and > forget about starting it in a hurry. The cure was simple - park it > nose down or on the level. > Trouble is with those engines is that if the leak-off pipes (very > cheap) or injector seals (�500) doesn't fix it then the dealers start > talking about the injector pump (�1200). > Car was worth �1700 trade-in so off it went when a suitable > replacement came along. > Dave I had forgotten about the leak off pipes, but they cured the uphill start problem on my nephews vectra, unfortunately it's pump went at 130,000 miles, it seems likely that it is mainly the electronics that die in the pump, but a recon pump from dieselbobs was about 500 quid (as opposed to the vauxhall 1200) and I fitted it, but I had to buy the special timing kit, which I resold on ebay as I could not ever envisage changing another one! It is still going several years on and is likely to be run into the ground as it has no value, he put the reg into 'webuyanycar' and they offered 70 quid !!
From: Kellerman "kellerman on 24 Jul 2010 04:54
On 24/07/2010 09:21, Mrcheerful wrote: > Kellerman"< wrote: >> On 22/07/2010 16:40, Mrcheerful wrote: >>> Kellerman"< wrote: >>>> On 19/07/2010 15:37, Trev wrote: >>>>> Hi all >>>>> Fusion 14tdi has leaking injector/s. I had this last year and it >>>>> turned out to be the injector seal on one cylinder. Looking round >>>>> the net it seems to be a regular problem on this engine anyone have >>>>> any tips to cure it or is it going cost me on a regular basis? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Trev >>>> Ask a Vectra B owner the same question. Injector seals fail in the >>>> 2.0 and 2.2dti (ex-fiat) engine. Causes starting problem if the car >>>> is parked with the engine uphill (!) and costs �500 to fix. >>> >>> that is usually caused by an air leak at the fuel filter. >>> >>> >> Alas, not in my case. That was checked and found to be OK. >> The leak-off pipes can also cause that, but they were changed because >> of a fuel leak. The original rubber pipe perished (common fault >> apparently) and was replaced with a much better quality pipe as now >> supplied by Vauxhall. Was better after this, you could leave it for a >> day or two nose up but go away for a week or more parked up-hill and >> forget about starting it in a hurry. The cure was simple - park it >> nose down or on the level. >> Trouble is with those engines is that if the leak-off pipes (very >> cheap) or injector seals (�500) doesn't fix it then the dealers start >> talking about the injector pump (�1200). >> Car was worth �1700 trade-in so off it went when a suitable >> replacement came along. >> Dave > > I had forgotten about the leak off pipes, but they cured the uphill start > problem on my nephews vectra, unfortunately it's pump went at 130,000 miles, > it seems likely that it is mainly the electronics that die in the pump, but > a recon pump from dieselbobs was about 500 quid (as opposed to the vauxhall > 1200) and I fitted it, but I had to buy the special timing kit, which I > resold on ebay as I could not ever envisage changing another one! It is > still going several years on and is likely to be run into the ground as it > has no value, he put the reg into 'webuyanycar' and they offered 70 quid !! > > Yes, �1200 was the vauxhall price. This was 4 years ago and there didn't seem to be any refurbs on the market at that time. I had that car (2.2di estate, CDX with all the toys) for 7 years and lost out on depreciation. Bought at 6 months old for �11K, eventually p/x for �1700 - all due to horror stories over pump, turbo and injector seal failures on that 2.2 engine. The car it's self was reliable only needing normal servicing along with a few odds and ends. In 85,000 miles I had: HID ballast failure (possible caused by hitting a Pheasant) MAF sensor failed Front springs broke The "O" ring on the turbo intake failed several times (used to carry a spare) Leak off pipes Glowplugs Possible injector seals - not proven 'cos I sold the car There was a hint from the garage that the oil seals on the turbo needed investigation. Not done as the car was p/x'ed Dave -- Blow my nose to email me |