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From: cal on 6 Jul 2010 11:32

On 07/05/10 2:55 PM, in article I+5IgwDsqiMMFwJW(a)harding.demon.co.uk, "Alan
Harding" <Alan(a)harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <C8576D54.79BC5%cal1360(a)gmail.com>, cal <cal1360(a)gmail.com>
> writes
>>
>> calling a spade a spade isn't name calling.
>
> It is here; it's an insulting term for blacks.

i'm aware of that usage, but i refuse to abandon the much older saying
because of what latter-day yahoos did to the word. where present, the insult
lies in the intent of the speaker.

From: Toby on 8 Jul 2010 08:26
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:42:01 GMT, Athol wrote:

> hippo <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)registered_user_usenet.com.au> wrote:
>> % wrote:
>
>>> hiding from the David
>
>> Of course he's still. He died.
>> You sir have no taste and respect.
>
> Patrick died on 5th November last year and was buried on 10th.
>
> His father wrote to me about the vehicles that Patrick left me in his
> will, and rang me several times about it. He was clearly heartbroken
> that he had buried his only child alongside his wife, who had died of
> cancer (leukemia, I think) when Patrick was a child.
>
> To simplify things, Patrick's father and I agreed that the estate
> would purchase the vehicles from me rather than me having to collect
> them and transfer them back to NSW. That was all completed in March
> this year.
>
> I'm really not interested in the mentally disturbed crossposters who
> insist on trolling, so I'm making this one post to set the record
> straight and that's that.

Thanks for that.
Didn't know he'd left for real.
Or unreal, for that matter.
He's missed, for real - here.

--
Toby.
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