From: Zephyr on
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:52:01 -0700, Zephyr <Zephyr(a)world.traveler.net>
wrote:

>What are the symptoms of alternator going bad? Does it go bad
>gradually or suddenly? Have '90 Seville and the battery is almost 3
>yrs old (w/ 5 yr warranty) and AFAIK, the alerternator is the original
>one. Asking because one time the engine did not start right off when
>the ignition key was turned on when the car was unused for like two
>weeks. There was a dead spot when the ignition key was first turned
>on, just like when you have a dead battery. But the second turn on
>started the engine. Been running the car almost everyday for 4-5
>miles and have not experienced the dead spot problem in engne
>starting. But feel something's not right. Am I being paranoid?

(This shall serve as replies to respondents. Thanks for the
responses.)

The Seville has battery voltage monitor (along with coolent temp,
engine rpm and oil index). When the "problem" developed, started
monitoring it closely. When the ignition is on, the voltmeter reads
14.5 initially, but then drops down to 13.5 after a few miles. Noticed
voltage drop before, but do not remember dropping to 13.5. My
recollection is that it used to drop to 14.1/14.2, not to 13.x.

Checked the battery terminal and cables and I don't see corrosion or
loose connection.

Just got back from freeway driving (75 mph) and the voltmeter
gradually crept up to 14.0 and stayed there for like 30min (and it
would not go higher). But when got back into the city driving (40
mph), voltage gradually drops down to 13.5. As mentioned I don't
think this was normal and that was the main cause for concern.

Hard to tell on AM radio noise as the antenna is broken. There is
hissing whether engine is on or off.

Does the above give any more hints?

From: Ad absurdum per aspera on
> Asking because one time the engine did not start right off when
> the ignition key was turned on when the car was unused for like two
> weeks. There was a dead spot when the ignition key was first turned
> on, just like when you have a dead battery. But the second turn on
> started the engine.  


That sounds like a dead spot on the starter, or maybe a loose
connection.

Alternator electrical failures I've known are usually sudden and
unambiguous, though their mechanical failures (e.g., bearings) usually
develop over time, with warning signs.

An inexpensive multimeter can let you know what's going on. With the
engine running, you should be seeing something around >= 14V on the
battery posts, if alternator and wiring connections are good. With
the engine off, the battery should read in the mid twelves.

How well the battery holds how much charge, and how willingly it
delivers current, are questions for a load tester. Again. though, it
isn't what I'm thinking of, for your specific symptoms.

Cheers,
--Joe
From: cuhulin on
About forty something years ago, I read somewhere that if a flat blade
screwdriver will stick pretty good on the middle of the rear of an
alternator, that means the alternator is good.
One of those old ''Tricks''.
cuhulin

From: Zephyr on
Yesterday and today the engine started with oomph. The freeway ride
two days ago must have done some good. Will drive everyday and
hopefully the problem does not reappear. Thanks again for taking the
time to respond.


On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:52:01 -0700, Zephyr <Zephyr(a)world.traveler.net>
wrote:

>What are the symptoms of alternator going bad? Does it go bad
>gradually or suddenly? Have '90 Seville and the battery is almost 3
>yrs old (w/ 5 yr warranty) and AFAIK, the alerternator is the original
>one. Asking because one time the engine did not start right off when
>the ignition key was turned on when the car was unused for like two
>weeks. There was a dead spot when the ignition key was first turned
>on, just like when you have a dead battery. But the second turn on
>started the engine. Been running the car almost everyday for 4-5
>miles and have not experienced the dead spot problem in engne
>starting. But feel something's not right. Am I being paranoid?