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From: Tim Downie on 8 Apr 2010 12:26 shazzbat wrote: > "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> How do other folk deal with these little b*stards? >> > > Grip the dished washer in a pair of pliers, right at the business > end of the jaws. Push it over the pin. Then, with a finger on the > head of the pin, grip the washer as hard as you can, push and twist. That was what I was attempting but I suspect I need some new pliers, the gripping surfaces on mine were just too slippery. > And be grateful it's a corsa and not a truck. > > There is a tool available, but I never could be arsed to buy one. Think I'll just leave it to a pro next time. ;-) Tim
From: Tim Downie on 8 Apr 2010 12:30 Mrcheerful wrote: > Tim Downie wrote: >> How do other folk deal with these little b*stards? >> >> Tim > > use your brake shoe spring tool. or a pair of pliers, or slide the > shoes out so that they are beyond their sliding surface and there is > more pin sticking through. Hmm, that might have worked. I would have thought though that the pin would have been too oblique with the shoe in that position to gain any effective length. > your ones are easy, the hard ones are the > type used on later fords where the spring is a U shaped clip that > slides in from the side But why do they have to be so fecking awkward? I swear they were designed by an apprentice in his lunch hour 50 years ago or more. All it would need would be a knurled head on the back of the pin to allow you to rotate it whilst pressing down on the cupped washer and spring and the job would be a doodle. I suppose that would cost a penny more per pin though... ;-( Thanks for all the advice. Tim
From: Mike G on 8 Apr 2010 13:21 "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:hpl0bi$dvm$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Mrcheerful wrote: >> Tim Downie wrote: > >>> How do other folk deal with these little b*stards? >>> >>> Tim >> >> use your brake shoe spring tool. or a pair of pliers, or slide the >> shoes out so that they are beyond their sliding surface and there is >> more pin sticking through. > > Hmm, that might have worked. I would have thought though that the pin > would have been too oblique with the shoe in that position to gain any > effective length. > >> your ones are easy, the hard ones are the >> type used on later fords where the spring is a U shaped clip that >> slides in from the side > > But why do they have to be so fecking awkward? I swear they were designed > by an apprentice in his lunch hour 50 years ago or more. All it would > need would be a knurled head on the back of the pin to allow you to rotate > it whilst pressing down on the cupped washer and spring and the job would > be a doodle. Actually it is a doddle. With a decent set of pliers you'd have seen just how easy it is. I've always thaught fitting those as the easy part of replacing brake shoes.Usually the more difficult part is fitting the springs between the shoes. Some of those don't like staying in position as one fits the shoes to the backplate. Mike. .
From: Mrcheerful on 8 Apr 2010 16:24 Mike G wrote: > "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:hpl0bi$dvm$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Mrcheerful wrote: >>> Tim Downie wrote: >> >>>> How do other folk deal with these little b*stards? >>>> >>>> Tim >>> >>> use your brake shoe spring tool. or a pair of pliers, or slide the >>> shoes out so that they are beyond their sliding surface and there is >>> more pin sticking through. >> >> Hmm, that might have worked. I would have thought though that the >> pin would have been too oblique with the shoe in that position to >> gain any effective length. >> >>> your ones are easy, the hard ones are the >>> type used on later fords where the spring is a U shaped clip that >>> slides in from the side >> >> But why do they have to be so fecking awkward? I swear they were >> designed by an apprentice in his lunch hour 50 years ago or more. All it >> would need would be a knurled head on the back of the pin to >> allow you to rotate it whilst pressing down on the cupped washer and >> spring and the job would be a doodle. > > Actually it is a doddle. With a decent set of pliers you'd have seen > just how easy it is. > > I've always thaught fitting those as the easy part of replacing brake > shoes.Usually the more difficult part is fitting the springs between > the shoes. Some of those don't like staying in position as one fits > the shoes to the backplate. > Mike. . you can always use your brake spring fitting tool :)
From: Mrcheerful on 8 Apr 2010 16:26
Tim Downie wrote: > shazzbat wrote: >> "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > >>> How do other folk deal with these little b*stards? >>> >> >> Grip the dished washer in a pair of pliers, right at the business >> end of the jaws. Push it over the pin. Then, with a finger on the >> head of the pin, grip the washer as hard as you can, push and twist. > > That was what I was attempting but I suspect I need some new pliers, > the gripping surfaces on mine were just too slippery. > >> And be grateful it's a corsa and not a truck. >> >> There is a tool available, but I never could be arsed to buy one. > > Think I'll just leave it to a pro next time. ;-) > > Tim the tool is only about 4 quid, you could make your own from a bit of suitable size tubing, just flare the end to fit the retainer, cut a window or two in the sides, a wadge of duct tape on the end to push against and bob is your aunty. |