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From: T i m on 1 Jul 2010 05:00
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:59:04 GMT, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan(a)prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:


>As an absolutely OT aside, last week, I hunted around in my garage for a
>simple switch that I could use on a length of flex as an extended "kill"
>switch temporarily for a small child's motorcycle. The one I ended up
>using was from a '60s Cortina!

For the first few minutes of our 6yr old on her Yamaha PW50 we used
one of those recoiling dog leads and the bike de-tuned a touch. Going
along at a fast walking pace in front of us is actually a good way to
see if they have got the 'use the throttle (off) *then* the brake'
idea.

She then moved onto a Yamaha TY80, then Piaggio Skipper 125 > Wuyang
125 for her test and then an old MZ 250 for work and general running
about. Yesterday she was carving an Easter Island type face into the
stump of a tree (she and her b/f felled for my cousin) using her Stihl
saws.

Maybe if we got her a 2/ car she'd be more interested in taking her
car bleedin test!

Back onto cars and ignition-kill ccts, I've ordered a couple of the
cheap Cobra touch key immobiliser's with the intention of fitting one
to our old Astra (along with some visible protection) and another to
the Hi-Lux laddo has just bought and about to drive back to Scotland
(for his tree surgery / firewood business).

Cheers, T i m


From: Chris Whelan on 1 Jul 2010 05:18
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:00:20 +0100, T i m wrote:

[...]

> For the first few minutes of our 6yr old on her Yamaha PW50 we used one
> of those recoiling dog leads and the bike de-tuned a touch. Going along
> at a fast walking pace in front of us is actually a good way to see if
> they have got the 'use the throttle (off) *then* the brake' idea.

This was a Honda QR50; they have a screw and locknut arrangement that
lets you limit maximum throttle opening down to almost nothing.

The machine is for my 7 years-old granddaughter. My son was the one
chasing around behind her. It was a strange thing for me to see; I was
chasing around behind him on a QR50 when he was 7, 25 years ago!

> She then moved onto a Yamaha TY80,

My son rode one of those in schoolboy trials, then moved up to a 125
Fantic, and finally a 160 Gas-Gas.

Chris

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From: T i m on 1 Jul 2010 06:14
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:18:09 GMT, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan(a)prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:

>This was a Honda QR50; they have a screw and locknut arrangement that
>lets you limit maximum throttle opening down to almost nothing.

Good idea too (I think the PW50 had similar). There's nothing more
frightening than being that parent and watching them heading towards
some barbed wire at 30 mph. ;-( [1]
>
>The machine is for my 7 years-old granddaughter. My son was the one
>chasing around behind her. It was a strange thing for me to see; I was
>chasing around behind him on a QR50 when he was 7, 25 years ago!

Yup, and I bet it doesn't seem like 25 years eh?
>
>> She then moved onto a Yamaha TY80,
>
>My son rode one of those in schoolboy trials,

I'd have loved her to do something like that but most of it seemed to
be held 'up Norf'?

I loved re-building her TY (It was bought quite tatty but still
expensive for it's age. First spoked motorbike wheels I'd ever fully
rebuilt myself as well). A full spec but small scale motorbike and
quickly gave her the gears / clutch thing. In fact it was quite nice
for her to be wheeling her bike through the pits and have the 'lads'
asking .. 'ere, has that bike got gears' and her to reply 'yeah' (most
of theirs were autos). It was also a 'gentle' bike as such with the
largish flywheel, happy to potter along at walking speed but then
power straight up a pretty steep incline.

I'm sure all that experience helped her 'get' the car gear / clutch
thing (she has hardly ever stalled anything she's driven since) just
sometimes I think she forgets she's not on a bike by the speed she
approaches just_Ka_width gaps! ;-(

> then moved up to a 125
>Fantic, and finally a 160 Gas-Gas.

Are they the ones that look little like 'motorbikes' as we know them
with their low cut down frames?

Cheers, T i m

[1] The one big off she had was on the PW50 where we found a new
tarmac access road beside the bit of waste ground we were using. She
came wanging past me on full chat and heading straight for the end of
a 6"sq fence post I'd spotted sticking out from the side of the road.
She went down like a bag of spuds and carried along the road on her
front for quite a distance. Apart from wrenching her shoulder and
getting a burn on her knee through the several layers of material she
was wearing she was ok but did learn several (good) lessons. She
admitted she was just in a world of her own, enjoying the moment
(well, up to that moment). I convinced her to gently ride it home (I
couldn't move the bike and assist her etc) and by the time we got home
she was pretty well ok again. Mum was a bit concerned of course but
couldn't say anything as she was riding a scooter when pregnant
with our daughter and had an XV750 herself at the time. ;-)

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