From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:09:27 -0500, Daniel who wants to know wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:34:53 -0500, Daniel who wants to know wrote:
>>
>>> "KirkM" <kmath50(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> I didn't end up having to remove it. The problem turned out to be with
>>>> the BCM integrated regulator. It was never energizing the field
>>>> circuit.
>>>>
>>>> KM
>>>
>>> BCM? I thought the V-Reg was in the SBEC?
>>
>> These things use a Denso (Toyota, since Denso is about 51% owned by
>> Toyota) alternator. I recognized it as soon as I looked at it.
>>
>> The regulator in this one is built off the housing.
>>
>>
>>
> I had a '92 Dynasty 3.3 and have a '95 Grand Caravan 3.3 and trust me the
> voltage regulator in the SBEC (single board engine controller) It is that
> black thing in the driver's front corner by the battery that the air
> filter box is attached to. There is even a fault code for "alternator
> field circuit open or shorted" which is code 41 IIRC, Allpar's site would
> tell for sure. The Dynasty threw that code when the brushes in the alt
> wore out. Had a local rebuilder (Fowler-Rowland) do brushes and bearings
> and it was good as new again.
>
> AFAIK there are 3 versions of the Denso alt. the Dynasty had the 90 amp,
> my van has the 120 amp and a friend's '01 Ram 1500 has the 130 amp.


I bought a used one for $20. I wanted to check it out before pressing it
into service, and I figured rightly that the brushes were gone. About 3/4.
So I got some new ones from the local NOT off-the-rack parts store for a
whopping $4.85, already mounted in the holder (no soldering!!! ;) )but I
could NOT get the cases apart!

On my Toyotas, I have no problem splitting the cases. This one would not
come apart!

How much was the rebuild, do you remember?



From: Daniel who wants to know on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:09:27 -0500, Daniel who wants to know wrote:
>
>
> I bought a used one for $20. I wanted to check it out before pressing it
> into service, and I figured rightly that the brushes were gone. About 3/4.
> So I got some new ones from the local NOT off-the-rack parts store for a
> whopping $4.85, already mounted in the holder (no soldering!!! ;) )but I
> could NOT get the cases apart!
>
> On my Toyotas, I have no problem splitting the cases. This one would not
> come apart!
>
> How much was the rebuild, do you remember?
>
>
>

Less than $50 IIRC. It was more for a Ford 3G large case but it required a
new front housing also.

On the Chrysler Denso's I have seen (the one from the Dynasty is partially
disassembled sitting on my kitchen floor) brush access is a simple matter of
removing the sheet metal cover on the back of the alt. The screws are really
tight though.