From: DanB on
"SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
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> DanB <iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Doubt it - I'm well aware of how resource-hungry it is, having watched
>> > the
>> > "memory used" figure in task manager go up and up and up several times
>> > before. But loads of times in the past I've had several tabs open
>> > (anything from 3 or 4 to 10+) and it's still worked fine, so I don't
>> > think
>> > that it's a lack of memory left for the wireless card to work. Surely
>> > that's what VM/swapfile is for?
>> >
>>
>> To be fair it just sounds to me like your PC is a heap :-) Have you
>> considered getting a Mac? They cost more, and have the same hardware
>> that
>> goes out of date just as quickly these days - but you get to be smug
>> about
>> it. They also seem to have just as many issues as PCs, but you're not
>> allowed to mention them. Although, as a PC user, you can quote this page
>> at
>> them endlessly -
>> http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant -
>> and it is pretty funny :-)
>
> The words of someone who has never owned and probably never used a Mac.
>
> Katie still uses an 8 year old Powerbook, it's running the OSX
> equivalent of running XP at the moment (ie. 1 generation behind) and I
> have a G4 Cube in my home office doing all my server type stuff -
> although it's an ancient machine with a 450MHz processor, it's
> absolutely fine for just about any everyday use.
>
> On the other hand, I've been through around 4 Windows boxes in the same
> time as Katie has had her Powerbook.
>

If you have a laptop, regardless who made it, and your needs never change,
of course you'd never need to upgrade. They don't get worse at doing the
same thing. If you start trying to use software that they're not up to etc,
then of course you'd need to upgrade, as you would with a Mac. If Katie is
still doing the same stuff on it she's always done, of course it'll be fine.
If on the other hand she starts to want to use new Photoshop or do some
video editing or graphics design work, she'd need a new one.

What do you mean, 'been through' 4 Windows boxes? They've broken? Or
you've wanted to do more exciting stuff on them and needed to upgrade?

--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65


From: SteveH on
DanB <iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

> > On the other hand, I've been through around 4 Windows boxes in the same
> > time as Katie has had her Powerbook.
> >
>
> If you have a laptop, regardless who made it, and your needs never change,
> of course you'd never need to upgrade. They don't get worse at doing the
> same thing. If you start trying to use software that they're not up to etc,
> then of course you'd need to upgrade, as you would with a Mac. If Katie is
> still doing the same stuff on it she's always done, of course it'll be fine.
> If on the other hand she starts to want to use new Photoshop or do some
> video editing or graphics design work, she'd need a new one.

Frankly, that's rubbish.

It started off on OS9, then OSX10.1 through to 10.4.

It has also had 3 different versions of Photoshop on it, also a couple
of versions of Adobe Illustrator and it appears web browsers get updated
overnight these days.

Also, although she's never used it for video editing, it'll do that
quite nicely, thanks. Because it's something that Macs have always been
good at. Unlike even her 6 month old Vista laptop, for example.

> What do you mean, 'been through' 4 Windows boxes? They've broken? Or
> you've wanted to do more exciting stuff on them and needed to upgrade?

Partially because bits have broken, partially because every time you
upgrade some software it slows the machin down to such a level that it
becomes useless. Which, as I've said up there, hasn't happened with the
Mac.
--
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From: AstraVanMann on
> I just hate the fact that people constantly slag off Macs, despite
> having never used one in anger.

So the measure of how good a computer is is how hard you can hit it? :-)

--
"For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died."


From: DanB on
"SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I just hate the fact that people constantly slag off Macs, despite
> having never used one in anger.
>
> I use both OSs every day. OSX pisses on XP and Vista from a great
> height.
>

Oh come on that's maybe true, but I went to a Uni specialising in Media for
3 years heh, I lived with Macs every day!

I'd agree 100% with you, if Macs weren't so mad expensive to be honest, they
are better at media stuff, but they damn well should be for the money! The
most expensive Powerbook is a 17" at �1,799 (Apple UK online store). It has
a decent CPU, at 2.5ghz C2d but aside from that it's very average. Only 2gb
DDR2, 250gb hard drive, 1680x1050 screen and a Geforce 8600m GT.

Constrast that again the 17" XPS laptop Dell sell for �1,799, which has the
same CPU but 4gb DDR2, 320gb (dual 160gb 7,200rpm drives - configerable
other ways though), 1920x1200 screen, dual SLI Geforce 8800GTX graphics
cards along with a Ageia PhysX Processing Unit Card PCI card in there.

You just get sooooooo much more for your money. And that includes a years
onsite warranty so they come to your house and fix it (4 years for �149).

--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65


From: Depresion on

"AstraVanMann" <Peter(a)Swerveforeskinweb.com> wrote in message
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>> I just hate the fact that people constantly slag off Macs, despite
>> having never used one in anger.
>
> So the measure of how good a computer is is how hard you can hit it? :-)

Presumably Macs are better at that as you do end up bashing your head against
them so often after they have just crashed again.


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