Exchanging details after a road traffic accident
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From: Halmyre on 23 Jun 2010 04:20 On 22 June, 16:26, Jethro <krazyka...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > On 22 June, 15:12, Mike Ross <m...(a)corestore.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:55:11 +0100, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > >Mike Ross wrote: > > >> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:03:06 +0100, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> > > >> wrote: > > > >>> Chris Hills wrote: > > >>>> On 21/06/2010 10:38, bod wrote: > > >>>>>> Consider this scenario. You are being signalled to pull over for > > >>>>>> an offense such as speeding or tailgating. You perform an > > >>>>>> emergency stop and the police car rear-ends your vehicle. Would > > >>>>>> the driver have to hand over his address? > > > >>>>> Why would you perform an emergency stop in that situation? > > > >>>> I would not. It is a hypothetical scenario. > > > >>> In that case, I assume that the police station that the plod was > > >>> stationed at would be the address given. After all, it would be the > > >>> police insurance that would have to deal with it (I assume). > > > >> Ultimately, yes, very likely. But your *claim* (if you have one) is > > >> against the driver *personally*; their insurance should them step in > > >> and take care of things. But if their insurers don't play ball, you > > >> can always sue the other driver personally. Their home address will > > >> be on their drivers license - which you must see, of course. > > > >> Mike > > > >there is no requirement to have or produce a driving licence at the scene of > > >an accident. > > > Really? Then how, in a damage-only accident not requiring the police to attend, > > is one supposed to ensure that the other party has not given a false name & > > address? > > > Mike > > --http://www.corestore.org > > 'As I walk along these shores > > I am the history within'- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > you can't. > > Numerous tales of people being given false names and addresses, which > is why you should also get the reg no. Although sadly, it's a fact of > life that people who *are more likely* to have accidents are also more > likely to be uninsured, and possibly have false/incorrect details for > the car. > > Modern phones may have helped, as they allow you to snap the cars, the > damage, and the driver. A previous employer supplied small digital > cameras with each company car, for exactly this purpose (well, that's > what they told the reps. The real reason was to prevent the reps > "inventing" accidents ...) I'm just a naive young slip of a lad (cough); why would reps want to invent accidents? To cover up their own boneheadedness? -- Halmyre
From: Mrcheerful on 23 Jun 2010 04:22 Mike Ross wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:55:11 +0100, "Mrcheerful" > <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Mike Ross wrote: >>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:03:06 +0100, bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris Hills wrote: >>>>> On 21/06/2010 10:38, bod wrote: >>>>>>> Consider this scenario. You are being signalled to pull over for >>>>>>> an offense such as speeding or tailgating. You perform an >>>>>>> emergency stop and the police car rear-ends your vehicle. Would >>>>>>> the driver have to hand over his address? >>>>> >>>>>> Why would you perform an emergency stop in that situation? >>>>> >>>>> I would not. It is a hypothetical scenario. >>> >>>> In that case, I assume that the police station that the plod was >>>> stationed at would be the address given. After all, it would be the >>>> police insurance that would have to deal with it (I assume). >>> >>> Ultimately, yes, very likely. But your *claim* (if you have one) is >>> against the driver *personally*; their insurance should them step in >>> and take care of things. But if their insurers don't play ball, you >>> can always sue the other driver personally. Their home address will >>> be on their drivers license - which you must see, of course. >>> >>> Mike >> >> there is no requirement to have or produce a driving licence at the >> scene of an accident. > > Really? Then how, in a damage-only accident not requiring the police > to attend, is one supposed to ensure that the other party has not > given a false name & address? > > Mike That is a different question. There is no need to have or produce a licence at the scene of an accident. I agree it would be a good rule if it existed, but it doesn't.
From: Mrcheerful on 23 Jun 2010 04:31 Nkosi (ama-ecosse) wrote: > On 21 June, 10:25, Chris Hills <c...(a)chaz6.com> wrote: >> When involved in a collision, you are obliged to exchange your >> address and insurance details with the other driver. If the other >> party is an on-duty police officer are they still required to do so? >> >> Consider this scenario. You are being signalled to pull over for an >> offense such as speeding or tailgating. You perform an emergency stop >> and the police car rear-ends your vehicle. Would the driver have to >> hand over his address? > > YES I would put a small wager on the policeman only needing to give his collar number, probably because of being a servant of the queen or somesuch, might even get an exemption due to terrorism laws.
From: Jethro on 23 Jun 2010 05:26 On 23 June, 09:20, Halmyre <flashgordonreced...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 22 June, 16:26, Jethro <krazyka...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 22 June, 15:12, Mike Ross <m...(a)corestore.org> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:55:11 +0100, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > >Mike Ross wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:03:06 +0100, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>> Chris Hills wrote: > > > >>>> On 21/06/2010 10:38, bod wrote: > > > >>>>>> Consider this scenario. You are being signalled to pull over for > > > >>>>>> an offense such as speeding or tailgating. You perform an > > > >>>>>> emergency stop and the police car rear-ends your vehicle. Would > > > >>>>>> the driver have to hand over his address? > > > > >>>>> Why would you perform an emergency stop in that situation? > > > > >>>> I would not. It is a hypothetical scenario. > > > > >>> In that case, I assume that the police station that the plod was > > > >>> stationed at would be the address given. After all, it would be the > > > >>> police insurance that would have to deal with it (I assume). > > > > >> Ultimately, yes, very likely. But your *claim* (if you have one) is > > > >> against the driver *personally*; their insurance should them step in > > > >> and take care of things. But if their insurers don't play ball, you > > > >> can always sue the other driver personally. Their home address will > > > >> be on their drivers license - which you must see, of course. > > > > >> Mike > > > > >there is no requirement to have or produce a driving licence at the scene of > > > >an accident. > > > > Really? Then how, in a damage-only accident not requiring the police to attend, > > > is one supposed to ensure that the other party has not given a false name & > > > address? > > > > Mike > > > --http://www.corestore.org > > > 'As I walk along these shores > > > I am the history within'- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > you can't. > > > Numerous tales of people being given false names and addresses, which > > is why you should also get the reg no. Although sadly, it's a fact of > > life that people who *are more likely* to have accidents are also more > > likely to be uninsured, and possibly have false/incorrect details for > > the car. > > > Modern phones may have helped, as they allow you to snap the cars, the > > damage, and the driver. A previous employer supplied small digital > > cameras with each company car, for exactly this purpose (well, that's > > what they told the reps. The real reason was to prevent the reps > > "inventing" accidents ...) > > I'm just a naive young slip of a lad (cough); why would reps want to > invent accidents? To cover up their own boneheadedness? > > -- > Halmyre- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Rep hits mates car with company car. Mate claims £££££s for damage, "injury" etc. Mate splits payout with rep. Not unheard of ...
From: Graham. on 23 Jun 2010 07:30
> >there is no requirement to have or produce a driving licence at the scene of > >an accident. > > Really? Then how, in a damage-only accident not requiring the police to attend, > is one supposed to ensure that the other party has not given a false name & > address? > > Mike > --http://www.corestore.org > 'As I walk along these shores > I am the history within'- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - you can't. Numerous tales of people being given false names and addresses, which is why you should also get the reg no. Although sadly, it's a fact of life that people who *are more likely* to have accidents are also more likely to be uninsured, and possibly have false/incorrect details for the car. Modern phones may have helped, as they allow you to snap the cars, the damage, and the driver. A previous employer supplied small digital cameras with each company car, for exactly this purpose (well, that's what they told the reps. The real reason was to prevent the reps "inventing" accidents ...) > > All I got was a Kodak disposable one. The courtesy umbrella was "single use" also. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |