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From: Dave C. on 19 Jan 2010 12:10
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:30:39 -0800 (PST)
Harry K <turnkey4099(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 18, 10:56 pm, "Dave C." <no...(a)nohow.never> wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:33:44 -0600
> >
> > Howard Evans <hwrdev...(a)washustl.edu> wrote:
> > > Didn't want to go out this A.M. but was required @ hospital. Heavy
> > > fog, visibility about 275-300 feet. Drivers running w/no lights
> > > and some were running in excess of 60 MPH.
> >
> > I learned a long time ago that in limited visibility conditions,
> > it's safest to run without lights on.  It attracts too much
> > attention from LEOs.  Better to run stealth.  Most were probably
> > going too fast though, with or without lights on.
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> That is about the dumbest statement I have read.
>
> Harry K

Roughly 15 years ago, I would have thought so, too. But I was getting
hassled for speeding when the only difference between me and nearby
traffic was, I had my lights on in low visibility conditions. It
happened too often to be coincidence. When you are in the middle of a
pack of 5-10 cars and you are the one that gets pulled over (time and
again), you start to wonder what it is about your car that is drawing
attention. Note I'm talking about a Silver colored family sedan.
Nothing screams "pull me over". It's not like I was driving a "ticket
me red" Corvette or something.

Anyway, I learned my lesson. In rain/fog, the lights are off. No
more hassles. -Dave
From: Dave C. on 19 Jan 2010 12:11

>
> Sounds like she had the speed right. In heavy fog everyone should
> keep it under 20.

Please PLEASE tell me you practice what you preach. But then again, if
you did, you would have exited stage right decades ago...-Dave
From: Brent on 20 Jan 2010 08:18
On 2010-01-19, Dave C. <noway(a)nohow.never> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:30:39 -0800 (PST)
> Harry K <turnkey4099(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 18, 10:56�pm, "Dave C." <no...(a)nohow.never> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:33:44 -0600
>> >
>> > Howard Evans <hwrdev...(a)washustl.edu> wrote:
>> > > Didn't want to go out this A.M. but was required @ hospital. Heavy
>> > > fog, visibility about 275-300 feet. Drivers running w/no lights
>> > > and some were running in excess of 60 MPH.
>> >
>> > I learned a long time ago that in limited visibility conditions,
>> > it's safest to run without lights on. �It attracts too much
>> > attention from LEOs. �Better to run stealth. �Most were probably
>> > going too fast though, with or without lights on.
>> >
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> That is about the dumbest statement I have read.
>>
>> Harry K
>
> Roughly 15 years ago, I would have thought so, too. But I was getting
> hassled for speeding when the only difference between me and nearby
> traffic was, I had my lights on in low visibility conditions. It
> happened too often to be coincidence. When you are in the middle of a
> pack of 5-10 cars and you are the one that gets pulled over (time and
> again), you start to wonder what it is about your car that is drawing
> attention. Note I'm talking about a Silver colored family sedan.
> Nothing screams "pull me over". It's not like I was driving a "ticket
> me red" Corvette or something.
>
> Anyway, I learned my lesson. In rain/fog, the lights are off. No
> more hassles. -Dave

The state you live in doesn't have a wipers on, lights must be on law?


From: gpsman on 20 Jan 2010 08:25
On Jan 19, 12:10 pm, "Dave C." <no...(a)nohow.never> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:30:39 -0800 (PST)
> Harry K <turnkey4...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I learned a long time ago that in limited visibility conditions,
> > > it's safest to run without lights on.  It attracts too much
> > > attention from LEOs.  Better to run stealth.
>
> > That is about the dumbest statement I have read.
>
> Roughly 15 years ago, I would have thought so, too.  But I was getting
> hassled for speeding when the only difference between me and nearby
> traffic was, I had my lights on in low visibility conditions.  It
> happened too often to be coincidence.  When you are in the middle of a
> pack of 5-10 cars and you are the one that gets pulled over (time and
> again), you start to wonder what it is about your car that is drawing
> attention.
>
> Anyway, I learned my lesson.   In rain/fog, the lights are off.  No
> more hassles.  -Dave

Stupid + stupid = more stupid, not less, stupid.
-----

- gpsman
From: Dave on 20 Jan 2010 10:33
>>
>> Anyway, I learned my lesson. In rain/fog, the lights are off. No
>> more hassles. -Dave
>
> The state you live in doesn't have a wipers on, lights must be on law?

Yeah, I believe it does. And it's universally ignored, and
nenforced. -Dave

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