From: dsi1 on
Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
> Agreed. The current Ford system is definitely "far out." Since the
> current generation of gas cans has a nozzle specifically designed to
> fit like the filler nozzle on the pump, I don't see that it would be
> any issue. "Totally wicked" quick-fill systems should function in a
> "groovy way" with the modern cans.
>
> There are some old cans out there that don't have a long nozzle on
> them, just a short spout. Those would work with cars designed for
> leaded gas, but when unleaded came along the modern narrow nozzle
> standard came out specifically to prevent "hodads" from pouring
> leaded gas into a car designed only for unleaded.
> --scott

That's "bitchin!" The truth is that people are going to think they're
really cool by not having to remove that gas cap and placing it on the
trunk or holding it like the rest of us "gremmies."

Do people still have those old gas cans? Do we still have to worry about
pouring leaded gas into cars designed only for unleaded? What a
"bummer." :-)


>
>>> Mike
>>> 2000 Cherokee Sport
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>
>
From: CWLee on
As the OP I thank you guys for your comments and
speculation. Let me try to focus the responses a bit.

First, I don't think the diameter of the gas pump
nozzle or the gas can nozzle is the issue - the problem
I'm concerned about is the length. The Ford website I
consulted implied that the gas pump nozzle goes
sufficiently far/deep into the filler tube to
engage/open the inner valve - and that ordinary gas can
nozzles or funnels are not long enough to allow gas to
flow.

Second, I'm mostly interested in hearing from people
who have actually added gas from other than a gas pump
into a recent model Ford that has one of these new
devices. Speculation is interesting, but I'd really
like to hear about some first-hand experience.

Again, I do appreciate what has been posted so far, so
please don't take offense at my desire to redirect the
flow more pointedly.

Thanks.


From: cuhulin on
I have quite a few very old timey/old style gas cans.I do use one of
them for lawn more gas, because I like them better than the plastic gas
cans.I am old fashioned.
cuhulin

From: Mike Romain on
Well then Ford would have totally screwed up wouldn't they have.

It is 'very' unlikely that your interpretation of 'size' is right.

Size of fuel fillers is the diameter, not the length.

Give us the link to the page you were reading please.

Mike

CWLee wrote:
> As the OP I thank you guys for your comments and speculation. Let me
> try to focus the responses a bit.
>
> First, I don't think the diameter of the gas pump nozzle or the gas can
> nozzle is the issue - the problem I'm concerned about is the length.
> The Ford website I consulted implied that the gas pump nozzle goes
> sufficiently far/deep into the filler tube to engage/open the inner
> valve - and that ordinary gas can nozzles or funnels are not long enough
> to allow gas to flow.
>
> Second, I'm mostly interested in hearing from people who have actually
> added gas from other than a gas pump into a recent model Ford that has
> one of these new devices. Speculation is interesting, but I'd really
> like to hear about some first-hand experience.
>
> Again, I do appreciate what has been posted so far, so please don't take
> offense at my desire to redirect the flow more pointedly.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
From: Scott Dorsey on
CWLee <cdubyalee(a)post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>First, I don't think the diameter of the gas pump
>nozzle or the gas can nozzle is the issue - the problem
>I'm concerned about is the length. The Ford website I
>consulted implied that the gas pump nozzle goes
>sufficiently far/deep into the filler tube to
>engage/open the inner valve - and that ordinary gas can
>nozzles or funnels are not long enough to allow gas to
>flow.

The ones I have here (from Ace Hardware) have flexible nozzles about
nine inches long. The long nozzle is required to open the "gate" on
all modern gas fillers anyway.

If yours does not have a long enough nozzle, cut a foot of garden hose
and clamp it on.

>Second, I'm mostly interested in hearing from people
>who have actually added gas from other than a gas pump
>into a recent model Ford that has one of these new
>devices. Speculation is interesting, but I'd really
>like to hear about some first-hand experience.

I haven't yet, but ask me after the Potomac Celtic Festival, when my
crew will have serviced a couple dozen people who will run out gas on
site (and at least twice that many who will have dead batteries and
need jump starts).
--scott

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