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From: dsi1 on 21 Nov 2009 18:19 Scott Dorsey wrote: > > Agreed. The current Ford system is definitely "far out." Since the > current generation of gas cans has a nozzle specifically designed to > fit like the filler nozzle on the pump, I don't see that it would be > any issue. "Totally wicked" quick-fill systems should function in a > "groovy way" with the modern cans. > > There are some old cans out there that don't have a long nozzle on > them, just a short spout. Those would work with cars designed for > leaded gas, but when unleaded came along the modern narrow nozzle > standard came out specifically to prevent "hodads" from pouring > leaded gas into a car designed only for unleaded. > --scott That's "bitchin!" The truth is that people are going to think they're really cool by not having to remove that gas cap and placing it on the trunk or holding it like the rest of us "gremmies." Do people still have those old gas cans? Do we still have to worry about pouring leaded gas into cars designed only for unleaded? What a "bummer." :-) > >>> Mike >>> 2000 Cherokee Sport >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and >>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com > >
From: CWLee on 21 Nov 2009 19:21 As the OP I thank you guys for your comments and speculation. Let me try to focus the responses a bit. First, I don't think the diameter of the gas pump nozzle or the gas can nozzle is the issue - the problem I'm concerned about is the length. The Ford website I consulted implied that the gas pump nozzle goes sufficiently far/deep into the filler tube to engage/open the inner valve - and that ordinary gas can nozzles or funnels are not long enough to allow gas to flow. Second, I'm mostly interested in hearing from people who have actually added gas from other than a gas pump into a recent model Ford that has one of these new devices. Speculation is interesting, but I'd really like to hear about some first-hand experience. Again, I do appreciate what has been posted so far, so please don't take offense at my desire to redirect the flow more pointedly. Thanks.
From: cuhulin on 21 Nov 2009 20:12 I have quite a few very old timey/old style gas cans.I do use one of them for lawn more gas, because I like them better than the plastic gas cans.I am old fashioned. cuhulin
From: Mike Romain on 22 Nov 2009 09:06 Well then Ford would have totally screwed up wouldn't they have. It is 'very' unlikely that your interpretation of 'size' is right. Size of fuel fillers is the diameter, not the length. Give us the link to the page you were reading please. Mike CWLee wrote: > As the OP I thank you guys for your comments and speculation. Let me > try to focus the responses a bit. > > First, I don't think the diameter of the gas pump nozzle or the gas can > nozzle is the issue - the problem I'm concerned about is the length. > The Ford website I consulted implied that the gas pump nozzle goes > sufficiently far/deep into the filler tube to engage/open the inner > valve - and that ordinary gas can nozzles or funnels are not long enough > to allow gas to flow. > > Second, I'm mostly interested in hearing from people who have actually > added gas from other than a gas pump into a recent model Ford that has > one of these new devices. Speculation is interesting, but I'd really > like to hear about some first-hand experience. > > Again, I do appreciate what has been posted so far, so please don't take > offense at my desire to redirect the flow more pointedly. > > Thanks. > >
From: Scott Dorsey on 22 Nov 2009 14:55
CWLee <cdubyalee(a)post.harvard.edu> wrote: > >First, I don't think the diameter of the gas pump >nozzle or the gas can nozzle is the issue - the problem >I'm concerned about is the length. The Ford website I >consulted implied that the gas pump nozzle goes >sufficiently far/deep into the filler tube to >engage/open the inner valve - and that ordinary gas can >nozzles or funnels are not long enough to allow gas to >flow. The ones I have here (from Ace Hardware) have flexible nozzles about nine inches long. The long nozzle is required to open the "gate" on all modern gas fillers anyway. If yours does not have a long enough nozzle, cut a foot of garden hose and clamp it on. >Second, I'm mostly interested in hearing from people >who have actually added gas from other than a gas pump >into a recent model Ford that has one of these new >devices. Speculation is interesting, but I'd really >like to hear about some first-hand experience. I haven't yet, but ask me after the Potomac Celtic Festival, when my crew will have serviced a couple dozen people who will run out gas on site (and at least twice that many who will have dead batteries and need jump starts). --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |