From: Don Stauffer on
hls wrote:
>
> "Jesse" <sumin(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>>>
>> Thanks everyone, I'll give this up. I hoped that there was some
>> correlation of mpg to rpm.
>
> No, there isnt. For your daughter, you want something very dependable,
> with reasonably good mileage, that handles well and can keep her relatively
> safe.
> I suggest you forget the mpg to rpm ratios.

I would disagree. The way to improved milage is to maximize throttle
opening while minimizing rpm. Keep in highest gear possible.

The throttle opening thing also requires one to stay below the power
enrichment point. This comes at somewhere around 3/4 throttle. Below
power enrichening, higher throttle settings burn fuel more efficiently
because the effect compression ratio is higher (partial throttle lowers
compression ratio).
From: E. Meyer on
On 7/9/10 9:23 AM, in article 4c3730c9$0$48226$815e3792(a)news.qwest.net, "Don
Stauffer" <stauffer(a)usfamily.net> wrote:

> hls wrote:
>>
>> "Jesse" <sumin(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>>>>
>>> Thanks everyone, I'll give this up. I hoped that there was some
>>> correlation of mpg to rpm.
>>
>> No, there isnt. For your daughter, you want something very dependable,
>> with reasonably good mileage, that handles well and can keep her relatively
>> safe.
>> I suggest you forget the mpg to rpm ratios.
>
> I would disagree. The way to improved milage is to maximize throttle
> opening while minimizing rpm. Keep in highest gear possible.
>
> The throttle opening thing also requires one to stay below the power
> enrichment point. This comes at somewhere around 3/4 throttle. Below
> power enrichening, higher throttle settings burn fuel more efficiently
> because the effect compression ratio is higher (partial throttle lowers
> compression ratio).

.... But the guy is trying to pick one car over another. How does this help?
Is there a table of optimized throttle/rpm somewhere?

From: hls on

"Don Stauffer" <stauffer(a)usfamily.net> wrote in message
news:4c3730c9$0$48226$815e3792(a)news.qwest.net...
> hls wrote:
>>
>> "Jesse" <sumin(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>>>>
>>> Thanks everyone, I'll give this up. I hoped that there was some
>>> correlation of mpg to rpm.
>>
>> No, there isnt. For your daughter, you want something very dependable,
>> with reasonably good mileage, that handles well and can keep her
>> relatively
>> safe. I suggest you forget the mpg to rpm ratios.
>
> I would disagree. The way to improved milage is to maximize throttle
> opening while minimizing rpm. Keep in highest gear possible.

You have to be reasonable in your expectations of how another person
will drive. We all know that the driving profile has a lot to do with
mileage.

And for most of us, modifying the driving profile is like being on a diet or
exercising...we may do it for a while, but if it is not part of our daily
life,
it probably wont become part of our daily life.

Check out a few cars, and -with respect to mileage- you get what you
get. You still cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

From: Scott Dorsey on
hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote:
>
>You have to be reasonable in your expectations of how another person
>will drive. We all know that the driving profile has a lot to do with
>mileage.

A neighbor of mine, quite a few years ago, came to me because his car had
suddenly started getting really terrible mileage. I went over it and changed
points and plugs and cleaned the carb and everything seemed perfectly fine
to me. He kept it for a few weeks, and reported the mileage hasn't improved
at all.

When I asked if anything had changed with his driving habits, he remarked
that his teenager had started driving the car. Problem solved. Well, not
really solved, but at least identified.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: ben91932 on
(partial throttle lowers
> compression ratio).

Unless the engine has agressive egr programming...