From: Atheist Chaplain on 23 Jun 2010 07:22 "Qansett" <qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c21ea8f$0$17174$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > On 22/06/2010 8:58 PM, Noddy wrote: >> "Qansett"<qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4c2095f6$0$582$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >> >>> Heres the big question: >> >> Uh-huh..... >> >>> Why cant they build and electric car that can recharge its >>> own batteries while in motion.? >> >> And how would you propose that they do that? >> > Use alternators to recharge the batteries you do understand the principal of diminishing returns............. but then I'm guessing not if you think that perpetual motion is viable. -- [This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International] "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." Gandhi
From: F Murtz on 23 Jun 2010 07:51 Qansett wrote: > On 22/06/2010 8:58 PM, Noddy wrote: >> "Qansett"<qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4c2095f6$0$582$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >> >>> Heres the big question: >> >> Uh-huh..... >> >>> Why cant they build and electric car that can recharge its >>> own batteries while in motion.? >> >> And how would you propose that they do that? >> > Use alternators to recharge the batteries >> -- >> Regards, >> Noddy. >> >> > Just ask yourself, why has no one done it in the last hundred years or more if it were that easy.
From: Noddy on 23 Jun 2010 08:34 "Qansett" <qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c21ea8f$0$17174$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > Use alternators to recharge the batteries Right. So, you thought of that and the companies that throw billions at research and development didn't because...... -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Toby on 23 Jun 2010 16:02 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:19:04 GMT, Athol wrote: > Bernd Felsche <berfel(a)innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> Time to bite the bullet. Fuel cells still have some way to being >> engineered for automotive traction use in hot climates, but that >> can possibly be achieved within a decade. Which gives time to >> develop synthetic, liquid fuels for such applications. Liquids that >> are as easy and convenient to store and handle as petrol or diesel. >> Energy to synthecise such fuels can be taken from "waste" heat of >> nuclear power stations; or conventional ones. > >> Hydrogen is interesting but a dead-end. > > Absolutely. > >> Even if the synthetic liquid fuel only has half the recoverable >> density of petrol/diesel, the ease of handling and refuelling will >> not be a severe constraint on personal mobility. > > I'd suggest that synthesised propane would be the best option of all, > as it has existing infrastructure in place that can be expanded, and > has a lower emission output than petrol for the same energy output. Not forgetting the synthesized butane, of course:-) -- Toby The solution could not possibly be more obvious. We can no longer afford the rich. T. Hussein Mississippifarian - July 2008
From: Brad on 23 Jun 2010 18:22
The original poster looks to have little idea of what an electric vehicle is. An alternator??? Does he think they use electric motors to turn a standard combustion engine complete with fan belts and alternator? What percentage of the population travel more than 150km per day? I'd say it's relatively low. I would suggest that 95% of the population could be served by an electric car as it currently stands. Charging off peak or through a solar array that charges batteries at home, It'd be a rather large array to do it but as I have said before, using solar cells instead of conventional roofing materials should be mandatory in all buildings domestic and commercial. Great Keppel Island looks like going close in it's proposed development. Sure we all want the freedom of a fill and go fuel. Hydrogen is wasteful, hybrid doesn't live up to expectations, but if you had a conventional battery load and a small "top up" motor you could increase mileage to the distances mentioned. Battery weight is still the hurdle for all who would see this happen. Something like a hybrid that only has the motor run after the 80-100km mark would be ideal if it were not for the bulky, heavy batteries. Or for those planning a longer trip you could flick a switch at the beginning of the known long distance jaunt and have the small motor start charging up the entire trip such as a hybrid, so the current 150km could be easily extended to 300-400, yet for the daily drive use it only as an electric vehicle. The cost of the vehicles is all related to volume. How many paid huge bucks for a Blue Ray (or even worse a HD DVD) and a massive plasma when now you can pick them up for pocket money. Splash money on a terabyte ssd now and see how the value of your investment holds up. Prices will drop, technology will stomp along in a haphazard way but it will keep moving. We can't keep drinking the dino juice, really we can't. -- Brad Leyden 6� 43.5816' S 146� 59.3097' E WGS84 To mail spam is really hot but please reply to thread so all may benefit (or laugh at my mistakes) > > |