Nissan Leaf (Electric Car)
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From: Diesel Damo on 23 Jun 2010 18:43 On Jun 23, 9:05 pm, Qansett <qan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 22/06/2010 8:58 PM, Noddy wrote:> "Qansett"<qan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >news:4c2095f6$0$582$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > >> > >> Why cant they build and electric car that can recharge its > >> own batteries while in motion.? > > > And how would you propose that they do that? > > Use alternators to recharge the batteries > Reminds me of the thread about electric-powered forced induction a while back. I think it was Dennis Jensen who worked out that in order to get the electric blower to operate at a level that would create any kind of improvement at all (so small you probably wouldn't even feel it with your butt-o-meter), it would take 5 alternators. We can drive those 5 alternators using fairy wishes, but most people will have to resort to using the engine to drive them.
From: Atheist Chaplain on 23 Jun 2010 20:18 "Qansett" <qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c2095f6$0$582$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > Read about this in the motoring section of Sydney Saturday Telegraph. > This car has only 160 kms range on a full battery charge and costs $40K > plus to buy. Unless youre a city driver only, who would buy this car at > that price.? > > Heres the big question: > Why cant they build and electric car that can recharge its > own batteries while in motion.? > > Is there political pressure from the oil companies to stop car makers > from producing such a car. It has been argued that perpetual motion > does NOT exist. I bet Nissan can do it. Done and dusted, and not by Nissan and not perpetual motion :-) http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/topgear-ampera?imageNo=1 -- [This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International] "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." Gandhi
From: Neil Gerace on 24 Jun 2010 08:51 Athol wrote: > As far as I can find out, every current straight electric and hybrid > electric vehicle uses regenerative braking to charge the batteries > when slowing down or going down hill. That's a major part of how > they get the range that they do. Without that, the above vehicle > might have a range of say 60km. > > On average, only about half of the energy makes it back into the > batteries, due to a combination of inefficiencies in the motor when > operating as a generator, wiring, electronics, etc., plus the limit > on how fast charge can be put into batteries. And of course, some of the gravitational potential energy stored in the car at the top of a hill is used to actually get the car down the hill :-)
From: Scotty on 24 Jun 2010 16:33 "Qansett" <qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c21ea8f$0$17174$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... : On 22/06/2010 8:58 PM, Noddy wrote: : > "Qansett"<qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message : > news:4c2095f6$0$582$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... : > : >> Heres the big question: : > : > Uh-huh..... : > : >> Why cant they build and electric car that can recharge its : >> own batteries while in motion.? : > : > And how would you propose that they do that? : > : Use alternators to recharge the batteries : > -- : > Regards, : > Noddy. : > : > : Not efficient enough I wouldnt think, it would drain more than it could recharge to run the alternator.
From: Albm&ctd on 26 Jun 2010 21:01
In article <4c21e547$0$28634$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, dwalford(a)internode.on.net says... > On 23/06/2010 7:05 PM, Milton wrote: > > > > "Fraser Johnston" <ftrust(a)iinet.net.au> wrote in message > > news:88ddesFpnrU1(a)mid.individual.net... > >> > >> "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message > >> news:4c2098e6$0$1204$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... > >>> > >>> "Qansett" <qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>> news:4c2095f6$0$582$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > >>> > >>>> Heres the big question: > >>> > >>> Uh-huh..... > >>> > >>>> Why cant they build and electric car that can recharge its > >>>> own batteries while in motion.? > >>> > >>> And how would you propose that they do that? > >> > >> Start by chucking the laws of physics in the bin. > >> > >> Fraser > > > > Not necessarily all to do with Physics anymore....think beyond the 20th > > century. I believe it will happen one day, give it 20/30 years and it > > will be all the go. Better batteries/alternators/electric engines and > > more than likely, powerplants we can't even imagine today. Open up your > > mind and be prepared to venture beyond the square. Who would have > > thought 100 years ago, we'd have television 50 years later or mobile > > phones with video conferencing. There would have been rules back then to > > say it couldn't be done. > > They don't need to invent perpetual motion for electric vehicles to > become a viable alternative to a petrol/diesel vehicles, what they need > to do is improve efficiency so that an electric car has a usable range > of around 400klm+ and can be fully recharged in about 30mins. > When that happens electric cars may be useful for other than short city > commuting. > Why don't they lay a big slot car track with a gov-co robot on the controller, then if you get flung off on a corner or caught speeding it's gov-co's fault? Al -- I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html |