From: Nick Finnigan on
Ret. wrote:

>
> But note the comment:
>
> "Some broad patterns are discernible from table 8. The proportion of
> drivers exceeding the speed limit on urban roads has fallen gradually
> over the past five years."
>
> Which supports what I have frequently claimed - that the incidence of
> speeding is decreasing both in terms of the numbers of drivers speeding
> - and the incidence of 'serious' speeding.

No, it says nothing about the incidence of what you call 'serious'
speeding, which is the same as it always was.
From: Ret. on
Nick Finnigan wrote:
> Ret. wrote:
>
>>
>> But note the comment:
>>
>> "Some broad patterns are discernible from table 8. The proportion of
>> drivers exceeding the speed limit on urban roads has fallen gradually
>> over the past five years."
>>
>> Which supports what I have frequently claimed - that the incidence of
>> speeding is decreasing both in terms of the numbers of drivers
>> speeding - and the incidence of 'serious' speeding.
>
> No, it says nothing about the incidence of what you call 'serious'
> speeding, which is the same as it always was.

I really don't accept that. I can remember the days when it was not at all
unusual to see drivers travelling well in excess of 70 mph on NSL roads.
Today this is rare. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it is very rare.
On rural NSL roads, where it's safe, I tend to drive at an indicated 70
mph - which is a true 65 mph in my car. I cannot remember the last time I
was overtaken when travelling at that speed.

Kev

From: Nick Finnigan on
Ret. wrote:
> Nick Finnigan wrote:
>> Ret. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But note the comment:
>>>
>>> "Some broad patterns are discernible from table 8. The proportion of
>>> drivers exceeding the speed limit on urban roads has fallen gradually
>>> over the past five years."
>>>
>>> Which supports what I have frequently claimed - that the incidence of
>>> speeding is decreasing both in terms of the numbers of drivers
>>> speeding - and the incidence of 'serious' speeding.
>>
>> No, it says nothing about the incidence of what you call 'serious'
>> speeding, which is the same as it always was.
>
> I really don't accept that. I can remember the days when it was not at
> all unusual to see drivers travelling well in excess of 70 mph on NSL
> roads.

When was that, who much in excess and how many in a day?

Today this is rare. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it is
> very rare. On rural NSL roads, where it's safe, I tend to drive at an
> indicated 70 mph - which is a true 65 mph in my car. I cannot remember
> the last time I was overtaken when travelling at that speed.

When were you last on the East Lancs? or the Speke Expressway?
or the A55? or the A666?