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From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids on 20 Feb 2010 00:25
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
news:djkun5tbs0uucq2jh6tcc9puj3noap91rl(a)4ax.com:

> Maybe this will wipe those smug grins off their faces. :)
>
> http://www.otismaxwell.com/blog/2010/01/prius-hybrid-battery-fails-at-7
> 0k-miles-toyota-won%E2%80%99t-pay-for-3700-repair/
>
> Last week our 2001 Prius started acting strangely, and today SF Toyota
> gave me the bad news. The hybrid battery is shot and a replacement
> will cost just under $3700, tax included. We�re a year and half 8
> months out of warranty, it turns out, so the repair cost is 100% our
> responsibility.
>
> This is a vehicle that was on the front page of the SF Chronicle in
> 2001, as a poster child for early adopters of green technology. We�ve
> bought another Prius since then and I�ve been looking with interest at
> the lithium-powered next generation coming in 2012. But this changes
> the equation. If you can expect to pay for a $3700 repair at 70,000
> miles, the car suddenly becomes much more expensive as well as less
> reliable� what happens if the failure occurs elsewhere than in a major
> city?
>
> I remember the naysayers when we bought it: �the battery�s going to
> die and it will cost you a fortune.� The reviewers scoffed at this:
> batteries don�t last forever, but it is unlikely to fail in the
> driving life of the vehicle. Too bad that�s not true. The $3700 new
> battery is warranted for 12 months. I guess that tells you something.

$3700 just for the battery!!!! Most i have ever spent on an entire
vehicle is $1700. Most of my cars were under a thou. I can't believe there
are people so dumb they buy cars where the battery alone is $3700.
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill St00pid Kids Only. on 20 Feb 2010 03:07
SFB spewed:

>$3700 just for the battery!!!! Most i have ever spent on an entire
>vehicle is $1700.

Is that what you make for a year of turning tricks in the bathhouse,
seppo?

> Most of my cars were under a thou.

And where did you steal the thou from? The wallets of your johns?

> I can't believe there
>are people so dumb they buy cars where the battery alone is $3700.

It is so nice to just have money to burn...

--
"This item demonstrates how stupid the average American is. Every
ninety minutes someone in this country is hit by a train. A train,
okay? Trains are on tracks; they can't come and get you. They
can't surprise you when you step off a curb. You have to go to them.
Got that?"
--George Carlin
From: Ashton Crusher on 20 Feb 2010 15:52
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:27 -0800, Scott in SoCal
<scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Maybe this will wipe those smug grins off their faces. :)
>
>http://www.otismaxwell.com/blog/2010/01/prius-hybrid-battery-fails-at-70k-miles-toyota-won%E2%80%99t-pay-for-3700-repair/
>
>Last week our 2001 Prius started acting strangely, and today SF Toyota
>gave me the bad news. The hybrid battery is shot and a replacement
>will cost just under $3700, tax included. We�re a year and half 8
>months out of warranty, it turns out, so the repair cost is 100% our
>responsibility.
>
>This is a vehicle that was on the front page of the SF Chronicle in
>2001, as a poster child for early adopters of green technology. We�ve
>bought another Prius since then and I�ve been looking with interest at
>the lithium-powered next generation coming in 2012. But this changes
>the equation. If you can expect to pay for a $3700 repair at 70,000
>miles, the car suddenly becomes much more expensive as well as less
>reliable� what happens if the failure occurs elsewhere than in a major
>city?
>
>I remember the naysayers when we bought it: �the battery�s going to
>die and it will cost you a fortune.� The reviewers scoffed at this:
>batteries don�t last forever, but it is unlikely to fail in the
>driving life of the vehicle. Too bad that�s not true. The $3700 new
>battery is warranted for 12 months. I guess that tells you something.


Chances are your "new" battery is made up of parts from other failed
batteries that were traded in to Toyota. Don't expect it to last
nearly as long as the original.
From: Daniel W. Rouse Jr. on 20 Feb 2010 19:42
"Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message
news:fqi0o5lenkd0vdt3j7pbl0gnmr664sl3lf(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:14:27 -0800, Scott in SoCal
> <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Maybe this will wipe those smug grins off their faces. :)
>>
>>http://www.otismaxwell.com/blog/2010/01/prius-hybrid-battery-fails-at-70k-miles-toyota-won%E2%80%99t-pay-for-3700-repair/
>>
>>Last week our 2001 Prius started acting strangely, and today SF Toyota
>>gave me the bad news. The hybrid battery is shot and a replacement
>>will cost just under $3700, tax included. We're a year and half 8
>>months out of warranty, it turns out, so the repair cost is 100% our
>>responsibility.
>>
>>This is a vehicle that was on the front page of the SF Chronicle in
>>2001, as a poster child for early adopters of green technology. We've
>>bought another Prius since then and I've been looking with interest at
>>the lithium-powered next generation coming in 2012. But this changes
>>the equation. If you can expect to pay for a $3700 repair at 70,000
>>miles, the car suddenly becomes much more expensive as well as less
>>reliable. what happens if the failure occurs elsewhere than in a major
>>city?
>>
>>I remember the naysayers when we bought it: "the battery's going to
>>die and it will cost you a fortune." The reviewers scoffed at this:
>>batteries don't last forever, but it is unlikely to fail in the
>>driving life of the vehicle. Too bad that's not true. The $3700 new
>>battery is warranted for 12 months. I guess that tells you something.
>
>
> Chances are your "new" battery is made up of parts from other failed
> batteries that were traded in to Toyota. Don't expect it to last
> nearly as long as the original.

Then that's remanufactured and the part should be clearly labelled as
remanufactured.


From: John David Galt on 21 Feb 2010 15:24
Scott in SoCal wrote:
> I remember the naysayers when we bought it: �the battery�s going to
> die and it will cost you a fortune.� The reviewers scoffed at this:
> batteries don�t last forever, but it is unlikely to fail in the
> driving life of the vehicle. Too bad that�s not true. The $3700 new
> battery is warranted for 12 months. I guess that tells you something.

I'm not at all surprised. I doubt that buying a hybrid really saves either
money or energy (compared to a regular car) when you account for the full
life cycle cost, including whatever fraction of them need the new battery.

Just as they did when they banned the incandescent light bulb and when they
forced McDonalds to stop using recyclable styrofoam packaging, the green
movement has scored an "own-goal" by defeating its own stated objectives.

Environmentalism is not science. It's "sound-bite science".
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