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From: John on 18 Jul 2010 05:11
"Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:Vdq0o.136984$U%7.74764(a)hurricane...
>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:L5n0o.7071$W43.6137(a)newsfe11.ams2...
>>>
>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Hmm0o.266003$w51.222136(a)hurricane...
>>>> My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car tomorrow - being
>>>> sold be a friend of a friend at a good price - history known - mileage
>>>> low.
>>>>
>>>> The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
>>>>
>>>> What should I really look out for. What are known issues (that I won't
>>>> know about)
>>>>
>>>
>>> great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one recently in nice
>>> looking condition and very low mileage for 100 quid , BUT I had to do
>>> the head gasket/water pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water cap off to see
>> if the level changes much?
>>
> no, buy a block test kit.
>
>

Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does engine work)
will possess? I have never heard of such a thing - what does it do -
pressurise the system - or read pressure?


From: Mrcheerful on 18 Jul 2010 05:27

"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:FUq0o.354592$_m6.139343(a)hurricane...
>>
>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:Vdq0o.136984$U%7.74764(a)hurricane...
>>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:L5n0o.7071$W43.6137(a)newsfe11.ams2...
>>>>
>>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Hmm0o.266003$w51.222136(a)hurricane...
>>>>> My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car tomorrow -
>>>>> being sold be a friend of a friend at a good price - history known -
>>>>> mileage low.
>>>>>
>>>>> The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
>>>>>
>>>>> What should I really look out for. What are known issues (that I won't
>>>>> know about)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one recently in
>>>> nice looking condition and very low mileage for 100 quid , BUT I had to
>>>> do the head gasket/water pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water cap off to see
>>> if the level changes much?
>>>
>> no, buy a block test kit.
>>
>>
>
> Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does engine work)
> will possess? I have never heard of such a thing - what does it do -
> pressurise the system - or read pressure?
>
>
any garage would have it, basically it is a coloured liquid that will change
colour if combustion gases pass through it. the kit is on ebay about twenty
quid or so. that vehicle can suffer from non-combustion head gasket leaks
when it pumps oil into the water system, but that is easy to spot by
inspection of the header bottle.


From: John on 18 Jul 2010 14:00
"Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dOz0o.232885$tH4.204687(a)hurricane...
>
> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:hzz0o.474$vA1.269(a)hurricane...
>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:FUq0o.354592$_m6.139343(a)hurricane...
>>>
>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Vdq0o.136984$U%7.74764(a)hurricane...
>>>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:L5n0o.7071$W43.6137(a)newsfe11.ams2...
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Hmm0o.266003$w51.222136(a)hurricane...
>>>>>> My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car tomorrow -
>>>>>> being sold be a friend of a friend at a good price - history known -
>>>>>> mileage low.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What should I really look out for. What are known issues (that I
>>>>>> won't know about)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one recently in
>>>>> nice looking condition and very low mileage for 100 quid , BUT I had
>>>>> to do the head gasket/water pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water cap off to see
>>>> if the level changes much?
>>>>
>>> no, buy a block test kit.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does engine work)
>> will possess? I have never heard of such a thing - what does it do -
>> pressurise the system - or read pressure?
>>
>>
> any garage would have it, basically it is a coloured liquid that will
> change colour if combustion gases pass through it. the kit is on ebay
> about twenty quid or so. that vehicle can suffer from non-combustion head
> gasket leaks when it pumps oil into the water system, but that is easy to
> spot by inspection of the header bottle.
>
>

Looked at it today and it was something of an anomaly. The mileage was only
showing 27,000 (apparently backed up with MOT documents but not yet seen)

Really clean - door edges, interior, etc. Downside was that the son of the
lady owner had: Applied tints to the windows - police made him remove it
from the fronts, daft big exhaust tail pipe and back box fitted and alloy
wheels (good tyres). The nuts seemed a bit odd in that some showed more
empty thread than others - a bit suspect!
No smell of combustion in the cooling water. Electrics -- incl Sun Roof
seemed fine. Air cleaner removed and replaced with a conical thing.

All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.


From: John on 18 Jul 2010 14:08
"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dOz0o.232885$tH4.204687(a)hurricane...
>>
>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:hzz0o.474$vA1.269(a)hurricane...
>>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:FUq0o.354592$_m6.139343(a)hurricane...
>>>>
>>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Vdq0o.136984$U%7.74764(a)hurricane...
>>>>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:L5n0o.7071$W43.6137(a)newsfe11.ams2...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Hmm0o.266003$w51.222136(a)hurricane...
>>>>>>> My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car tomorrow -
>>>>>>> being sold be a friend of a friend at a good price - history known -
>>>>>>> mileage low.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What should I really look out for. What are known issues (that I
>>>>>>> won't know about)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one recently in
>>>>>> nice looking condition and very low mileage for 100 quid , BUT I had
>>>>>> to do the head gasket/water pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water cap off to
>>>>> see if the level changes much?
>>>>>
>>>> no, buy a block test kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does engine work)
>>> will possess? I have never heard of such a thing - what does it do -
>>> pressurise the system - or read pressure?
>>>
>>>
>> any garage would have it, basically it is a coloured liquid that will
>> change colour if combustion gases pass through it. the kit is on ebay
>> about twenty quid or so. that vehicle can suffer from non-combustion
>> head gasket leaks when it pumps oil into the water system, but that is
>> easy to spot by inspection of the header bottle.
>>
>>
>
> Looked at it today and it was something of an anomaly. The mileage was
> only showing 27,000 (apparently backed up with MOT documents but not yet
> seen)
>
> Really clean - door edges, interior, etc. Downside was that the son of the
> lady owner had: Applied tints to the windows - police made him remove it
> from the fronts, daft big exhaust tail pipe and back box fitted and alloy
> wheels (good tyres). The nuts seemed a bit odd in that some showed more
> empty thread than others - a bit suspect!
> No smell of combustion in the cooling water. Electrics -- incl Sun Roof
> seemed fine. Air cleaner removed and replaced with a conical thing.
>
> All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.
>



On the topic of wheels - is it possible that the studs may not be long
enough? Or is it more likely that the nuts are wrong?


From: Mrcheerful on 18 Jul 2010 14:43
John wrote:
> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:_iH0o.281530$k15.271410(a)hurricane...
>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:dOz0o.232885$tH4.204687(a)hurricane...
>>>
>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hzz0o.474$vA1.269(a)hurricane...
>>>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:FUq0o.354592$_m6.139343(a)hurricane...
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Vdq0o.136984$U%7.74764(a)hurricane...
>>>>>> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:L5n0o.7071$W43.6137(a)newsfe11.ams2...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Hmm0o.266003$w51.222136(a)hurricane...
>>>>>>>> My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car
>>>>>>>> tomorrow - being sold be a friend of a friend at a good price
>>>>>>>> - history known - mileage low.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What should I really look out for. What are known issues (that
>>>>>>>> I won't know about)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one
>>>>>>> recently in nice looking condition and very low mileage for 100
>>>>>>> quid , BUT I had to do the head gasket/water
>>>>>>> pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water cap off
>>>>>> to see if the level changes much?
>>>>>>
>>>>> no, buy a block test kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does engine
>>>> work) will possess? I have never heard of such a thing - what does
>>>> it do - pressurise the system - or read pressure?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> any garage would have it, basically it is a coloured liquid that
>>> will change colour if combustion gases pass through it. the kit is
>>> on ebay about twenty quid or so. that vehicle can suffer from
>>> non-combustion head gasket leaks when it pumps oil into the water
>>> system, but that is easy to spot by inspection of the header bottle.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Looked at it today and it was something of an anomaly. The mileage
>> was only showing 27,000 (apparently backed up with MOT documents but
>> not yet seen)
>>
>> Really clean - door edges, interior, etc. Downside was that the son
>> of the lady owner had: Applied tints to the windows - police made
>> him remove it from the fronts, daft big exhaust tail pipe and back
>> box fitted and alloy wheels (good tyres). The nuts seemed a bit odd
>> in that some showed more empty thread than others - a bit suspect!
>> No smell of combustion in the cooling water. Electrics -- incl Sun
>> Roof seemed fine. Air cleaner removed and replaced with a conical
>> thing. All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.
>>
>
>
>
> On the topic of wheels - is it possible that the studs may not be long
> enough? Or is it more likely that the nuts are wrong?


just walk away from it, there are millions of nice, safe cars available.


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