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From: John David Galt on 20 Jul 2007 19:35 Scott en Aztl�n wrote: > The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet(a)gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > >> How about wearing a helmet while driving a car, then? Apparently the >> statistics for head injuries are pretty similar for car and motorcycle drivers. > > Cite? Dr. Dean Edell.
From: jgar the jorrible on 20 Jul 2007 19:59 On Jul 20, 6:36 am, Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Peter Lawrence <hummb...(a)aol.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > > >>>> I really never understood why many people prefer driving without using > >>>> their seat belt. Modern car seat belts are not uncomfortable to use > > >>> Yes, they are. > > >> Actually, they aren't that comfortable but... many vehicles do have a > >> seatbelt height adjustment to adjust the shoulder belt over the shoulder > >> instead of touching the side of the neck, and a relatively inexpensive > >> seatbelt shoulder pad makes the shoulder belt more comfortable over the > >> shoulder when driving for longer than 30 minutes. > > >I didn't mean to imply that seat belts are comfortable, but that modern > >ones (when probably adjusted) shouldn't cause anyone a great deal of > >discomfort. > > I always wear a seat belt. Most of the time I don't even notice I'm > wearing one unless the retractor spool locks up for some reason (e.g. > spirited driving). > I used to have an '81 Vette that had a tendency to continually tighten up the belts when driving over those hoppity parts of the freeway, to the point of inhibiting breathing. I would imagine someone with claustrophobia would really freak over that one. The first couple of times it happened it took a few seconds to realize I had to unlatch it (I'm tall, seat all the way back). jg -- @home.com is bogus. Just like this one: http://oddrob.com/images/corvettes/1981a.jpg
From: Matthew T. Russotto on 20 Jul 2007 22:26 In article <1184937522.829526.38160(a)q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, Harry K <turnkey4099(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 19, 9:45 pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) >wrote: >> In article <5sc0a3tdef1psjg8q1vhf6399rh44me...(a)4ax.com>, >> Scott en Aztl=E1n <newsgroup> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>Yes, they are. >> >> >I probably wouldn't mind if people refused to wear seat belts. Like >> >motorcycle helmets, not wearing them tends to be a self-curing >> >problem. However, the costs associated with your "rescue" and medical >> >care are borne by the rest of us who DO take proper precautions, and I >> >find that very objectionable. >> >> Then object to those imposing the costs. Once such costs become a >> valid reason for restricting activities, there is no limit on what can >> be restricted. > >??? Somebody doesn't wear a belt, ejects, major injuries and you >expect the rescue units and medical facilities not to charge for their >time/equipment? Weird. Rescue units? Medical facilities? If they can't pay for them, sweep them off the road and bury them in a pauper's grave. Don't like that? Fine, provide rescue and medical -- but don't try to use your squeamishness as an excuse to control other's behavior. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one.
From: The Real Bev on 21 Jul 2007 00:39 Harry K wrote: > The Real Bev <bashley101+use...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Scott en Aztl�n wrote: >> > russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) said in ca.driving: >> >> >>>I really never understood why many people prefer driving without using >> >>>their seat belt. Modern car seat belts are not uncomfortable to use >> >> >>Yes, they are. I'd say inoffensive rather than comfortable. If I were 4 inches taller I'd probably be happier, as I would be if I bothered to buy a sheepskin cushion for it. One of these days... >> > I probably wouldn't mind if people refused to wear seat belts. Like >> > motorcycle helmets, not wearing them tends to be a self-curing >> > problem. However, the costs associated with your "rescue" and medical >> > care are borne by the rest of us who DO take proper precautions, and I >> > find that very objectionable. >> >> > If you refuse to wear a seat belt, you should also lose all rights to >> > publicly-funded emergency services and/or publicly-funded medical >> > care. As long as it doesn't increase my costs, feel free to give >> > Darwin a helping hand. >> >> How about wearing a helmet while driving a car, then? Apparently the >> statistics for head injuries are pretty similar for car and motorcycle drivers. > > And I suppose you have a cite for that? Article at least a decade ago -- maybe two -- in the AMA magazine. Believe it or don't. -- Cheers, Bev ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All bleeding eventually stops.
From: Dave Head on 21 Jul 2007 09:13
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:47:27 -0700, Scott en Aztl�n <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Ravi <Raul.Fremont(a)gmail.com> said in ca.driving: > >>If you're pulled over in California for not wearing a seat belt and >>you show a note from doctor (describing medical condition that >>precludes wearing of seat belt), is that enough or can the cop still >>ticket you and make you have to show up in court to explain? >> >>But not sure how the police handle this. > >They will ticket you, and you will have to bring your little doctor's >note with you to court. Doctors' notes don't matter a whit to cops - >with them it's either click it or ticket. > >Just out of curiosity, what sort of medical condition would prevent >you from wearing a seat belt? > >If I had some sort of medical condition which prevented me from >wearing a seat belt, I wouldn't drive. No sense getting dead over a >medical condition. Wouldn't _drive_? You couldn't even ride in a car - passengers are just as liable to get killed as the driver. |