From: John David Galt on
Scott en Aztl�n wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet(a)gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>
>> How about wearing a helmet while driving a car, then? Apparently the
>> statistics for head injuries are pretty similar for car and motorcycle drivers.
>
> Cite?

Dr. Dean Edell.
From: jgar the jorrible on
On Jul 20, 6:36 am, Scott en Aztlán <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Peter Lawrence <hummb...(a)aol.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>
> >>>> I really never understood why many people prefer driving without using
> >>>> their seat belt. Modern car seat belts are not uncomfortable to use
>
> >>> Yes, they are.
>
> >> Actually, they aren't that comfortable but... many vehicles do have a
> >> seatbelt height adjustment to adjust the shoulder belt over the shoulder
> >> instead of touching the side of the neck, and a relatively inexpensive
> >> seatbelt shoulder pad makes the shoulder belt more comfortable over the
> >> shoulder when driving for longer than 30 minutes.
>
> >I didn't mean to imply that seat belts are comfortable, but that modern
> >ones (when probably adjusted) shouldn't cause anyone a great deal of
> >discomfort.
>
> I always wear a seat belt. Most of the time I don't even notice I'm
> wearing one unless the retractor spool locks up for some reason (e.g.
> spirited driving).
>

I used to have an '81 Vette that had a tendency to continually tighten
up the belts when driving over those hoppity parts of the freeway, to
the point of inhibiting breathing. I would imagine someone with
claustrophobia would really freak over that one. The first couple of
times it happened it took a few seconds to realize I had to unlatch it
(I'm tall, seat all the way back).

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From: Matthew T. Russotto on
In article <1184937522.829526.38160(a)q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Harry K <turnkey4099(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 19, 9:45 pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto)
>wrote:
>> In article <5sc0a3tdef1psjg8q1vhf6399rh44me...(a)4ax.com>,
>> Scott en Aztl=E1n <newsgroup> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >>Yes, they are.
>>
>> >I probably wouldn't mind if people refused to wear seat belts. Like
>> >motorcycle helmets, not wearing them tends to be a self-curing
>> >problem. However, the costs associated with your "rescue" and medical
>> >care are borne by the rest of us who DO take proper precautions, and I
>> >find that very objectionable.
>>
>> Then object to those imposing the costs. Once such costs become a
>> valid reason for restricting activities, there is no limit on what can
>> be restricted.
>
>??? Somebody doesn't wear a belt, ejects, major injuries and you
>expect the rescue units and medical facilities not to charge for their
>time/equipment? Weird.

Rescue units? Medical facilities? If they can't pay for them, sweep them off
the road and bury them in a pauper's grave. Don't like that? Fine,
provide rescue and medical -- but don't try to use your squeamishness
as an excuse to control other's behavior.
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From: The Real Bev on
Harry K wrote:

> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Scott en Aztl�n wrote:
>> > russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) said in ca.driving:
>>
>> >>>I really never understood why many people prefer driving without using
>> >>>their seat belt. Modern car seat belts are not uncomfortable to use
>>
>> >>Yes, they are.

I'd say inoffensive rather than comfortable. If I were 4 inches taller I'd
probably be happier, as I would be if I bothered to buy a sheepskin cushion
for it. One of these days...

>> > I probably wouldn't mind if people refused to wear seat belts. Like
>> > motorcycle helmets, not wearing them tends to be a self-curing
>> > problem. However, the costs associated with your "rescue" and medical
>> > care are borne by the rest of us who DO take proper precautions, and I
>> > find that very objectionable.
>>
>> > If you refuse to wear a seat belt, you should also lose all rights to
>> > publicly-funded emergency services and/or publicly-funded medical
>> > care. As long as it doesn't increase my costs, feel free to give
>> > Darwin a helping hand.
>>
>> How about wearing a helmet while driving a car, then? Apparently the
>> statistics for head injuries are pretty similar for car and motorcycle drivers.
>
> And I suppose you have a cite for that?

Article at least a decade ago -- maybe two -- in the AMA magazine. Believe
it or don't.

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From: Dave Head on
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:47:27 -0700, Scott en Aztl�n <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Ravi <Raul.Fremont(a)gmail.com> said in ca.driving:
>
>>If you're pulled over in California for not wearing a seat belt and
>>you show a note from doctor (describing medical condition that
>>precludes wearing of seat belt), is that enough or can the cop still
>>ticket you and make you have to show up in court to explain?
>>
>>But not sure how the police handle this.
>
>They will ticket you, and you will have to bring your little doctor's
>note with you to court. Doctors' notes don't matter a whit to cops -
>with them it's either click it or ticket.
>
>Just out of curiosity, what sort of medical condition would prevent
>you from wearing a seat belt?
>
>If I had some sort of medical condition which prevented me from
>wearing a seat belt, I wouldn't drive. No sense getting dead over a
>medical condition.

Wouldn't _drive_? You couldn't even ride in a car - passengers are just as
liable to get killed as the driver.