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From: GT on 2 Jul 2010 05:03
"NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
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> On 2 July, 08:45, Ed Chilada <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:30:56 +0100, Chris Bartram
>>
>> <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>> >On 01/07/10 18:22, brass monkey wrote:
>> >> Do residents get the chance to oppose speed bumps or do they simply
>> >> appear?
>>
>> >My local council usually does a consultation, and then installs them
>> >regardless.
>>
>> Our street had a 'consultation' when all our pavements were redone.
>> They asked us whether we wanted paving or tarmac. We all sent our
>> replies in and a few weeks later we got tarmac. One of the old ladies
>> down the road was so incensed by this she knocked on all the doors
>> (about 60 of them), and asked which way they voted. As you've probably
>> already guessed, the vast majority voted for paving.
>
> Were the council officials and the tarmac suppliers in the same lodge
> by any chance?

More likely that tarmac doesn't have to be maintained and checked for
'trips' regularly. If the council don't check the pavements regularly, then
when someone trips, the council gets sued. If they lay tarmac, then that
isn't an issue.


From: Derek C on 2 Jul 2010 07:19
On Jul 1, 7:55 pm, "brass monkey" <a...(a)b.com> wrote:
> "Chris Bartram" <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote in message
>
> news:i0imt0$qcf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 01/07/10 18:22, brass monkey wrote:
> >> Do residents get the chance to oppose speed bumps or do they simply
> >> appear?
>
> > My local council usually does a consultation, and then installs them
> > regardless.
>
> O terrific. It isn't a prob at the mo but I've refused to buy houses before
> now if the street has bumps, they drive me to distraction.
> If I suddenly found bumps outside I'd prolly do a Cumbria job on the
> council.

I had some of the euphemistically named 'speed pillows' installed on
the road outside my house by the Local Council a few years ago. I
don't remember been consulted about this, and the scheme apparently
cost about £25k for some lumps of raised tarmac. The contractors must
see the council coming!

Speed pillows are designed to be narrow enough allow buses to pass
over them without disturbing the passengers, but are wide enough to
give a nice jolt to ordinary cars. What I get now is cars screeching
to a near standstill, bumping and scraping over the speed pillows, and
then accelerating away again, thus increasing both noise and air
pollution levels. The daft thing is that the gaps left for the buses
still allow high powered motorbikes to wizz up and down my residential
street at very high speeds!

Derek C
From: GT on 2 Jul 2010 08:18
"Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 7:55 pm, "brass monkey" <a...(a)b.com> wrote:
> "Chris Bartram" <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote in message
>
> news:i0imt0$qcf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 01/07/10 18:22, brass monkey wrote:
> >> Do residents get the chance to oppose speed bumps or do they simply
> >> appear?
>
> > My local council usually does a consultation, and then installs them
> > regardless.
>
> O terrific. It isn't a prob at the mo but I've refused to buy houses
> before
> now if the street has bumps, they drive me to distraction.
> If I suddenly found bumps outside I'd prolly do a Cumbria job on the
> council.

I had some of the euphemistically named 'speed pillows' installed on
the road outside my house by the Local Council a few years ago. I
don't remember been consulted about this, and the scheme apparently
cost about �25k for some lumps of raised tarmac. The contractors must
see the council coming!

Speed pillows are designed to be narrow enough allow buses to pass
over them without disturbing the passengers, but are wide enough to
give a nice jolt to ordinary cars. What I get now is cars screeching
to a near standstill, bumping and scraping over the speed pillows, and
then accelerating away again, thus increasing both noise and air
pollution levels. The daft thing is that the gaps left for the buses
still allow high powered motorbikes to wizz up and down my residential
street at very high speeds!

I raised this point on another thread - these speed lumps don't do anyone
any good. The lorries and buses can steam over them at 30mph (or faster)
because they simply straddle them. These are the vehicles that can't stop
easily in an emergency, whereas the cars (and bikes) that have better
stopping mechanisms are forced to slow down to around half the speed limit
to avoid damage to the vehicle or the passengers spines! They are therefore
clearly not about reducing traffic speed as they ignore the large, heavy,
dangerous vehicles and they are not there to raise money by catching
speeders as we have cameras for that, so as Yoda would say, "Pointless they
are".


From: Brimstone on 5 Jul 2010 14:18

"NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
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> On 5 July, 11:01, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:223ee7fe-a116-43b4-9b11-344400135fe4(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 2 July, 20:06, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:569dcfd5-2223-40d8-935f-cd3ba5031b10(a)a29g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

>> >> > What hill would that be on the M5 in Somerset?
>>
>> >> Clevedon.
>>
>> >> (Now in the new fangled administrative area of North Somerset, but
>> >> very
>> >> firmly in the historical county of Somerset and in that county when
>> >> built.)
>>
>> > Pah, call that a hill?
>>
>> That's what it's labelled as.
>>
>> > Only need to drop one cog in the super swede
>> > even full freighted, you will be going on about the mountain ranges of
>> > Lincolnshire next.
>>
>> As if I Wold.
>
> Aah! You fen ignorance?

Such a response doesn't wash with me!


From: NM on 5 Jul 2010 15:53
On 5 July, 19:18, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:19085b05-5deb-46eb-9f17-c8479e8f7023(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 5 July, 11:01, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:223ee7fe-a116-43b4-9b11-344400135fe4(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On 2 July, 20:06, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:569dcfd5-2223-40d8-935f-cd3ba5031b10(a)a29g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > What hill would that be on the M5 in Somerset?
>
> >> >> Clevedon.
>
> >> >> (Now in the new fangled administrative area of North Somerset, but
> >> >> very
> >> >> firmly in the historical county of Somerset and in that county when
> >> >> built.)
>
> >> > Pah, call that a hill?
>
> >> That's what it's labelled as.
>
> >> > Only need to drop one cog in the super swede
> >> > even full freighted, you will be going on about the mountain ranges of
> >> > Lincolnshire next.
>
> >> As if I Wold.
>
> > Aah! You fen ignorance?
>
> Such a response doesn't wash with me!

Now if feel drained.
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