From: Brent on 4 Nov 2009 13:37 On 2009-11-04, James Robinson <wascana(a)212.com> wrote: > Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >>> >>> When they come to take you away let us know. >> >> That would be a violation of the law. (yeah, I know, you didn't read >> those bills and don't think they exist) > > They'll just use Extraordinary Rendition, or whatever they call it next. sorry, I wasn't clear... telling that they've taken me away or that they visited is the violation.
From: Clark F Morris on 4 Nov 2009 13:56 On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:14:31 +0000 (UTC), James Robinson <wascana(a)212.com> wrote: >Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >>> >>> When they come to take you away let us know. >> >> That would be a violation of the law. (yeah, I know, you didn't read >> those bills and don't think they exist) > >They'll just use Extraordinary Rendition, or whatever they call it next. I thought they only could do that to non-citizens and those citizens who voluntarily entered a foreign country that would do renditions for the United States.
From: hancock4 on 4 Nov 2009 14:14 On Nov 4, 1:11 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Lacking any real arguments to make I see. Your attacks on me don't > change the manipulations and increases in power of the supreme court > which are facts of history. I did not attack you. I attacked your anti-government rants. I stand by my position that if your rants were true, they'd have come and taken you away long ago, using the many powers and techniques you claim they have. > > When they come to take you away let us know. > > That would be a violation of the law. (yeah, I know, you didn't read > those bills and don't think they exist) According to you the government ignores the laws (like the Constitution) and does what it damn pleases.
From: Brent on 4 Nov 2009 14:37 On 2009-11-04, hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 1:11�pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Lacking any real arguments to make I see. Your attacks on me don't >> change the manipulations and increases in power of the supreme court >> which are facts of history. > > I did not attack you. An out of the blue out-of-subject-out-of-drift attack wasn't personal, sure.... whatever. > I attacked your anti-government rants. Even if I were to accept that characterization, you did so in reply to an extremely brief summary of supreme court history. Very odd. > I stand by my position that if > your rants were true, they'd have come and taken you away long ago, > using the many powers and techniques you claim they have. Your argument is like saying if your car's engine hasn't siezed a badly performing oil pump that's getting worse is not a problem. >> > When they come to take you away let us know. >> That would be a violation of the law. (yeah, I know, you didn't read >> those bills and don't think they exist) > According to you the government ignores the laws (like the > Constitution) and does what it damn pleases. I guess you just need personal experience. Sooner or later you'll get some. I won't expect an apology. Although I suspect you'll find a way to rationalize it until the very end.
From: Stephen Sprunk on 4 Nov 2009 15:55
Clark F Morris wrote: > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:14:31 +0000 (UTC), James Robinson > <wascana(a)212.com> wrote: >> Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >>>> When they come to take you away let us know. >>> >>> That would be a violation of the law. (yeah, I know, you didn't read >>> those bills and don't think they exist) >> >> They'll just use Extraordinary Rendition, or whatever they call it next. > > I thought they only could do that to non-citizens and those citizens > who voluntarily entered a foreign country that would do renditions for > the United States. "Can" and "do" are often quite different, especially when you're dealing with secret military teams under the control of the CIA, none of whose activities are ever reported to the public. If they were violating the law, how would we know? The only worse program we have is FISA (which allows the gov't to get secret warrants, from a secret rubber-stamp court whose judges aren't even publicly named, to spy on anyone within the US, including citizens). S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking |