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From: Steve Barker on 21 Jul 2010 10:59
On 7/20/2010 8:52 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> Bill Murphy wrote:
>> I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five
>> 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and
>> off-road vehicles.
>>
>> I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep
>> two cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially
>> inside the house - while this is outside along the fence.
>>
>> But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them.
>> I said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun
>> could cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more
>> than a single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?).
>>
>> Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard?
>> Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car?
>
> I'd be more concerned about the buttinsky neighbor than the gasoline.
>
>

amen. tell him to myob

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From: dpb on 21 Jul 2010 11:07
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
....
> From: Stephen D. Coan, State Fire Marshal
....
> In accordance with 527 CMR 8.21(5), .gasoline or other flammable
> petroleum product may be transported without a permit in any open
> vehicle or in a compartment of a closed vehicle separated from
> passengers, ...

So you can't take gas home to mow the yard if you have only a SUV or
other trunk-less vehicle in MA...

Nanny has struck again.

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From: dpb on 21 Jul 2010 11:15
Bill Murphy wrote:
....

> Any ideas what the laws are on transport?

While specifics vary as Ed posted, generally sotoo 20 gal is legal in
DOT-rated transport containers. It's a relatively low hazard but like
anything else, "stuff happens" and in high traffic areas or other
reasons for higher than normal accident probabilities one should be duly
aware.

OTOH, for farm use I keep a 150 gal diesel and 40 gal gasoline transport
tank in the pickup as we have done for 50 yrs or so. Compared to the
1500 gal anhydrous ammonia tank tagging along behind, the fuel risk is
quite benign... :)

As for the original question on storage, I'd try to make a shaded
location for the storage if you have no shed to minimize the chances of
lifting the safety relief on a hot day of a full can but other than that
I'd have no particular concern, either.

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From: FatterDumber& Happier Moe on 22 Jul 2010 05:50
Bill Murphy wrote:
> I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five
> 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and off-road
> vehicles.
>
> I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep two
> cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially inside the
> house - while this is outside along the fence.
>
> But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them. I
> said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun could
> cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more than a
> single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?).
>
> Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard?
> Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car?

Just how smart is this neighbor? Free gas and you ought to put a case
of beer with it.
From: Roy on 22 Jul 2010 18:21
On 7/22/2010 1:50 PM, Bill Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:40:52 -0500, JimT wrote:
>
>> I would not store more than 2 gallons at the most...
>
> At this point, I just want to find out what the law says about storage and
> transportation of 5-gallon gasoline containers.
>
> So far, nobody can come up with a California law. NY law was interesting
> though. So a Ca law probably exists (hell, in California, you can't even
> put a GPS on the windshield).
>
> We just can't find any California law regarding either storage of 5-gallon
> cans of gasoline or transportation of 5-gallon portable containers filled
> with gasoline.
>
>...


You should contact your local planning department with regards to
storage. They are the best place to start. Another good place is your
local fire department since it involves hazardous material storage.

As far as transportation, I did find this

"It is ILLEGAL to transport more than 15 gallons or 125 pounds of
hazardous waste in your personal vehicle."

I suspect 15 gallons of gasoline is the maximum not counting the vehicle
fuel tank.
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