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From: krw on 13 Jun 2010 13:28
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:06:39 +0000 (UTC), "D. Ohl"
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>> Subject: Where can I get an old style non CARB 5-gal gasoline can?
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>> Where can I get an old style non CARB compliant 5-gal gasoline can?
>> I pine for the days when 5-gallong gas jugs had a pour spout and a vent.
>> All the gasoline cans I can find in the stores are something called "CARB
>> compliant". They are miserable abominations.
>> I've never spilled so much gasoline in my life!
>> One model has an on/off lever, but you have to use two hands at all times,
>> one to hold the can, the other to keep pressed down on the lever, and the
>> third hand to hold the funnel. The moment you let up on the lever, the
>> handle locks shut, necessitating a manual reset.
>> The other type has only a push-to-open tab which you supposedly press
>> against the lip of the tool you're filling. Forget using funnels with this
>> method. And, since the spout fills the opening of the tool you're filling,
>> you can't see when it's full until you spill it all over the outside of the
>> There must be somewhere I can get the old-style gas cans.
>> What is the reason for these CARB abominations anyway?
>> Any idea where to get the old style 5-gallon gas cans?
>My husband Bill does this whenever he's forced to buy the EPA-mandated gas
>1. He cuts off the child-proof small tab that makes removing the cap to
>refill so difficult. Unscrewing the cap still takes FORCE so no "child" is
>going to be able to remove it anyway (did the EPA ever raise kids? That tab
>is overkill!). A gas cap is screwed on so tightly I have trouble removing
>it. I can't imagine a "child" removing it. Any child that has that kind of
>strength also can defeat the child-proof tab!
>2. He pops out the plastic-spring-loaded switch that prevents you from
>pressing down twice. Now you can pour gas, let up on the handle to let it
>settle, press down again to pour. With that lock-tab in place, you have to
>spill the gas before you can see where the gas level is in the tank you're
>filling or you have to put the can down, switch hands, re-press that
>switch, and pour anew.
>He hasn't drilled a vent hole yet, which would be the next step. I would
>worry about multiple use with just a wood screw as some have mentioned.
>What kind of vent can be drilled that will keep gas in but will be able to
>be used many times without stripping?
>And, what was wrong with the old vent & easy pour mechanism anyway?
My gas can has a vent in the nozzle. When the nozzle get submerged it stops,
sorta. I've found that if I stick the nozzle an inch-and-a-half down in the
tank it cuts off pretty close to full. Other than the silly plastic
child-proof tab it has no other safety features on it. The thing I *don't*
like is that there is no good way to seal the can, other than putting the
plastic disc between the nozzle and the can, which means disassembling the
thing twice for each use.
From: aemeijers on 13 Jun 2010 14:20
> My gas can has a vent in the nozzle. When the nozzle get submerged it stops,
> sorta. I've found that if I stick the nozzle an inch-and-a-half down in the
> tank it cuts off pretty close to full. Other than the silly plastic
> child-proof tab it has no other safety features on it. The thing I *don't*
> like is that there is no good way to seal the can, other than putting the
> plastic disc between the nozzle and the can, which means disassembling the
> thing twice for each use.
I HATE my 5-gallon can. Even if I only put 4 gallons in it (now my
standard practice), the angles of the nozzle make it impossible to get
it down in the fill hole on my mower without a stream going across the
top of the mower first. These idiots need to look at some old cans, or
even a long-neck watering can, for some ideas on how to make a can you
can actually pour from. Even a little turn-down at the end of the nozzle
would help. Wonder if anybody makes a angled filler neck/funnel that
screws on to a lawnmower gas tank, and has a bigger larger lid, so you
could just leave it in place all the time? My can would work fine for
refueling a pickup truck.
From: Roger Blake on 13 Jun 2010 14:32
On 2010-06-13, The Daring Dufas <the-daring-dufas(a)peckerhead.net> wrote:
> I remember when toilets would flush and shower heads would flow
> before some government agency got hold of them.
Ours still do, we have the good old-fashioned kind. For that matter I
have a basement full of incandescent light bulbs socked away and will
continue to use them after the "ban" on their sale goes into effect.
I refuse to let the federal scumbags dictate to me what kind of toilet I
use, what kind of shower I wash with, or what kind of light bulbs are
installed in my house. Screw 'em.
(Change "invalid" to "com" for email. Google Groups killfiled due to spam.)
"Obama dozed while people froze."
From: dpb on 13 Jun 2010 14:59
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:52:10 -0500, dpb wrote:
>> the current 5-gal plastic pails w/ the pour spout used
>> for motor/hydraulic/etc. oil would certainly hold gasoline as well.
> This might be a good idea, if I understand you correctly.
> I buy a oil-changing can with a pour spout, and then I fill the abominable
> CARB gas can with gas.
> When I need to pour out the five gallons, I remove the abominable CARB
> spout, and just pour the 5 gallons of gasoline into the clean oil-changing
> Then, I can pour from the oil-changing tub into the on-road vehicle or
> wherever I need it at that moment without having to deal with the
> abominable CARB spout.
> Is that what you were suggesting? ('cuz it's a great idea!).
Well, I was suggesting using the 5-gal oil can just like one would use
an old-style metal or plastic can w/o the intermediate step. W/ a wide
spout, it'll probably pour well enough; if not, the funnel that (I think
it was OP) would certainly be enough.
Being on farm w/ fairly sizable acreage around the house, besides the
actual farm equipment (and since some of the tractors/combines/etc have
as large as 250 gal tanks on them) I don't have much of anything that is
very small to deal with. :)
I do have a pair of 2-1/2 gal plastic containers (probably anyway 30 yr
old :) ) w/ a 8" or so spout. One holds the 2-cycle mix for trimmer and
chainsaw, etc., and the other is convenient for the small lawn
tractor/trim mower/hand tiller/etc. Other than that, everything is
filled from a bulk tank for either gas or diesel. I have 100 gal diesel
and 40 gal gasoline transfer tanks w/ transfer pumps permanently in the
4x4 for field refueling and I refill a couple of the 5-gal old metal
cans and leave them in the shop to refill the smaller ones from from it.
Equit comes and fills the bulk tanks at beck and call and if the 4x4
is sitting there when they come, they fill it, too. Unfortunately, they
have always sent the invoices at the end of the month. :(
So, sorta', but not quite I think... :)
From: krw on 13 Jun 2010 17:44
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:20:32 -0400, aemeijers <aemeijers(a)att.net> wrote:
>> My gas can has a vent in the nozzle. When the nozzle get submerged it stops,
>> sorta. I've found that if I stick the nozzle an inch-and-a-half down in the
>> tank it cuts off pretty close to full. Other than the silly plastic
>> child-proof tab it has no other safety features on it. The thing I *don't*
>> like is that there is no good way to seal the can, other than putting the
>> plastic disc between the nozzle and the can, which means disassembling the
>> thing twice for each use.
>I HATE my 5-gallon can. Even if I only put 4 gallons in it (now my
>standard practice), the angles of the nozzle make it impossible to get
>it down in the fill hole on my mower without a stream going across the
>top of the mower first. These idiots need to look at some old cans, or
>even a long-neck watering can, for some ideas on how to make a can you
>can actually pour from. Even a little turn-down at the end of the nozzle
>would help. Wonder if anybody makes a angled filler neck/funnel that
>screws on to a lawnmower gas tank, and has a bigger larger lid, so you
>could just leave it in place all the time? My can would work fine for
>refueling a pickup truck.
I had one like that; left it in Vermont. The nozzle on the one I bought to
replace it is pretty flexible. I don't spill anything, even with a full can
and it shuts off before overflowing the tank, as long as I stick it far enough
in. Other than no good cap on the nozzle, it's fine. It seems none have a
good cap anymore.