From: Duncan Wood on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:53:20 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:33:18 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
> <nntpnews(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:15:31 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:37:26 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
>>> <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> the lock will have been broken by brute force, there is every
>>>> likelihood it
>>>> will need a column complete (cheap from a breakers in any case.)
>>>
>>> Ok, encouraging. Are there any places in particular that would be
>>> particularly good for such things do you know please (M25, J25 or
>>> reasonable radius).
>>
>> Last time I bought one after it split whilst removing the steering
>> wheel,
>> it cam mail order for about �30.
>
> Not bad then.
>
>> Of course if you get it from the scrappy
>> yourself there's less chance it's also been forced.
>
> True.
>
> Would the marks made by it being forced be pretty obvious (over the
> std wear and tear I mean)? I would be expecting a big burr one or both
> sides of the hole and possibly scoring around the rest of the shaft?
>
> Cheers, T i m

It varies. But given the price of two new bolts it's easy to check.
From: Mrcheerful on
Duncan Wood wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:53:20 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:33:18 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
>> <nntpnews(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:15:31 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:37:26 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
>>>> <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the lock will have been broken by brute force, there is every
>>>>> likelihood it
>>>>> will need a column complete (cheap from a breakers in any case.)
>>>>
>>>> Ok, encouraging. Are there any places in particular that would be
>>>> particularly good for such things do you know please (M25, J25 or
>>>> reasonable radius).
>>>
>>> Last time I bought one after it split whilst removing the steering
>>> wheel,
>>> it cam mail order for about �30.
>>
>> Not bad then.
>>
>>> Of course if you get it from the scrappy
>>> yourself there's less chance it's also been forced.
>>
>> True.
>>
>> Would the marks made by it being forced be pretty obvious (over the
>> std wear and tear I mean)? I would be expecting a big burr one or
>> both sides of the hole and possibly scoring around the rest of the
>> shaft? Cheers, T i m
>
> It varies. But given the price of two new bolts it's easy to check.

I re-use the old ones, just grind a slot in the dome and use a screwdriver.


From: T i m on
On 22 Jun 2010 16:05:02 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>saying:
>
>>>> we were paid out �275.
>
>>>Quite. And it didn't even have history showing it to have been written-
>>>off before...
>
>> Indeed, but it was damaged > repaired and wasn't of any bookable value
>> in the first place so I'm not sure if that would make any difference
>> would it (I know it wouldn't 'help' etc).
>
>You think that'll stop the insurers just trying to restrict the payout to
>two buttons and a fluff-covered half-chewed toffee?

I think even they have limits. ;-)
>
>>> And chain the frigging thing down from now on.
>
>> If the witness's statements were of any value and fitted a known m.o. or
>> SOCO found anything that could pin it to anyone in particular (they have
>> dusted the car for prints etc apparently) maybe these particular scrotes
>> might get chained down for a while (I'm not holding my breath of
>> course).
>
>Scrotes. Easy-to-nick lift home that won't attract any unwanted plod
>attention. Except now they (and their mates) KNOW where to find that nice
>easy-to-nick lift home.

True, except if we get it back it won't be quite so easy to do again
.....
>
>> In fact, it was actually the best (looking and running) car we had /
>> have! ;-)
>
>Considering it's a Vauxhall Belmont, I think that says quite a lot about
>your other choices...

You are quite right and as I said they weren't choices. Ever heard the
phrase 'beggars can't be choosers ..', or more accurately, we prefer
to spend our money on things we don't leave on the public highway and
aren't 'just transport'. ;-)

The Rover was �100 6+ years ago (inc two new tyres and 6 months TAX)
and I use it all the time for all sorts of things, from running stuff
to the dump to visiting our daughter in Scotland to towing various
trailers and the (1981) folding caravan. It has a towbar, electric
windows, electric sunroof, power steering and still does 50 mpg. If it
blew up tomorrow it owes me nothing and in spite of never having any
previous interest in diesels or Rovers I'd get another tomorrow
(specially at that price). ;-)

The Belmont 'came along' when we were thinking of getting rid of the
Sierra we had for 23 years and had cost �25 when I was made redundant
from the Co. 100k miles by Wife and I and never let us down.

The Corsair and Vauxhall Victor were given to me by my Dad and my
first Morris Minor van cost me �25 (just needed a gearbox before I
could drive it home).

Even the MZ motorbike I was given (cos it was part burnt in a shop
fire) was restored and run by me for a while, sold to a mate (who put
70,000 kms on the clock) who then gave it to our daughter who rode it
to / from work for 6 months. ;-)

I'd have to say the Company Sierra Estate was the best car in the
world. It was free! ;-)

Cheers, T i m


From: T i m on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:29:26 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
<nntpnews(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:


>> Would the marks made by it being forced be pretty obvious (over the
>> std wear and tear I mean)? I would be expecting a big burr one or both
>> sides of the hole and possibly scoring around the rest of the shaft?
>>

>
>It varies. But given the price of two new bolts it's easy to check.

<nods>

T i m

From: T i m on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:31:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:


>>>
>>> Would the marks made by it being forced be pretty obvious (over the
>>> std wear and tear I mean)? I would be expecting a big burr one or
>>> both sides of the hole and possibly scoring around the rest of the
>>> shaft? Cheers, T i m
>>
>> It varies. But given the price of two new bolts it's easy to check.
>
>I re-use the old ones, just grind a slot in the dome and use a screwdriver.
>
Now you mention it I think I've done the same before, especially to
try it all out. They might as well unscrew it rather than smashing it
off (not that they would stop to look of course). ;-)

Cheers, T i m