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From: SW on 30 Nov 2009 14:11 On 30 Nov, 01:02, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Peter Grange wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:25:03 +0000, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) > > wrote: > > >> Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >>>> Here's something you could try to test the theory. Stop the next > >>>> pavement cyclist that you see and ask them to ride where they > >>>> belong. > > >>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get his > >>> hulking great car off the pavement and on the street where it > >>> belongs. > > >> When I see a driver driving down the pavement at 25mph I shall tell > >> them off. > > > Good luck with stopping him. > > Wouldn't need to. Cars have registration plates & can be easily identified > if they break the law. Cyclists don't, because they don't pay to use the > roads. Unless they pay council tax.
From: Squashme on 30 Nov 2009 15:15 On 30 Nov, 19:11, SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 30 Nov, 01:02, "The Medway Handyman" > > > > <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Peter Grange wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:25:03 +0000, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) > > > wrote: > > > >> Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > >>>> Here's something you could try to test the theory. Stop the next > > >>>> pavement cyclist that you see and ask them to ride where they > > >>>> belong. > > > >>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get his > > >>> hulking great car off the pavement and on the street where it > > >>> belongs. > > > >> When I see a driver driving down the pavement at 25mph I shall tell > > >> them off. > > > > Good luck with stopping him. > > > Wouldn't need to. Cars have registration plates & can be easily identified > > if they break the law. Cyclists don't, because they don't pay to use the > > roads. > > Unless they pay council tax. And income tax. Of course ukt regulars just "know" somehow that cyclists (sorry, "lycra loons") do not pay taxes.
From: Adrian on 30 Nov 2009 16:47 Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Of course, the big problem with Section 2(A)(1) of the RTA 1988 is that > it doesn't suit your preconceptions. Poor love.
From: Steve Firth on 30 Nov 2009 16:58 mileburner <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Blame is not the issue. The issue is whether the driving was dangerous. > > If someone dies as a result of it, the driving must have been dangerous. Some years ago a friend of mine was driving along a busy high street. A pedestrian jumped in front of the car when the car was approximately three feet from the pedestrian. The pedestrian was killed. The police investigated the affair thoroughly including use of CCTV, multiple witness statements and a forensic examination of vehicle, marks left at the scene and a full clinical chemistry assessment of the driver, with particular emphasis on drugs of abuse including alcohol. The police made a rcommendation to the CPS that there was no case to answer, that no blame attached to the driver in any way and that no drivr could have avoided the collision. According to you the driving was "dangerous". About twenty years ago a motorcyclist failed to stop at a junction and rode into the side of my car. I was moving at about 3mph at the time. Fortunately although seriously injured the motorcyclist did not die. Had he died presumably you would claim that I was "driving dangerously". In short, you're a fuckwit.
From: Tony Dragon on 30 Nov 2009 17:36
Adrian wrote: > Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> gurgled happily, sounding > much like they were saying: > >> Of course, the big problem with Section 2(A)(1) of the RTA 1988 is that >> it > > doesn't suit your preconceptions. > > Poor love. According to the poor dear, if a collision occurs involving a car, the motorist must be at least partially to blame because the car was there. Using the same logic a collision involving a cycle must result in the cyclists being at least partially to blame. Lets wait for the nexr wriggle when he tries to aportion blame. -- Tony Dragon |