Diesels In England: Why ?
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From: Ashton Crusher on 31 May 2010 17:06 On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:19:43 -0400, Bob <rgsros(a)notme.invalid> wrote: >Hello, > >My son tells me that diesel cars are very, very popular in England. >Obviously they are not here. > >a. If he's right, how come they are over there ? >b. What are the pros and cons of diesel vs gas ? >c. etc. > >Any thoughts would be most appreciated. > >Thanks, >Bob A big part of the "why" is that historically there have been major differences in the pollution control laws. Not sure how it stands now but for a while you could sell diesels as well as gas engine vehicles in Europe that you would not get past the emissions regulations here. When I was in Europe many years ago, most of the large cities were choking on diesel fumes, not just smog.
From: hls on 31 May 2010 17:41 "Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message news:s09806ttngvts0cdeqo8cj12tgasbdu7mt(a)4ax.com... > > A big part of the "why" is that historically there have been major > differences in the pollution control laws. Not sure how it stands now > but for a while you could sell diesels as well as gas engine vehicles > in Europe that you would not get past the emissions regulations here. > When I was in Europe many years ago, most of the large cities were > choking on diesel fumes, not just smog. European diesels are a lot cleaner now. They have made a lot of progress, while we diddle with huge V8s and SUVs/Pickup Trux.
From: cuhulin on 31 May 2010 18:08 In America, big engines with a lot of cubic inches is what counts, for some people anyway.Big engines are only loafing along at Interstate speeds. cuhulin
From: Roger Blake on 31 May 2010 19:12 On 2010-05-31, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > Loafing along at 12 miles per gallon, Cuhu? When fuel gets up to > $8-10 per gallon, "loafing along" might be viewed in a different light. Gasoline is that expensive in Europe due to the confiscatory tax policies of those governments. If politicians try to bring about the same policies here, and clearly the current regime would like to, they will be in for a rude awakening come election time. (Despite the best efforts of the government schools and mass media, Americans have not yet been completely reduced to a state of complacent servitude.) -- Roger Blake (Change "invalid" to "com" for email. Google Groups killfiled due to spam.) "Obama dozed while people froze."
From: jim on 31 May 2010 20:22
Roger Blake wrote: > > On 2010-05-31, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > > Loafing along at 12 miles per gallon, Cuhu? When fuel gets up to > > $8-10 per gallon, "loafing along" might be viewed in a different light. > > Gasoline is that expensive in Europe due to the confiscatory tax > policies of those governments. When you hear someone say "confiscatory tax policies" you know you are listening to a brainwashed fool. How is a one tax any more or less confiscatory than any other tax? the nation has a choice what to tax to raise the money it needs and it is pretty obvious this country is making some screwy choices. The Europeans have a better tax policy than the US. In the US the taxes are placed mostly on labor and then when jobs go overseas because of the cheaper labor costs you wonder what the hell happened. But hey whatever you do don't tax oil!!! If you tax oil people might use less oil and then how are those poor Saudis going to make a living? >If politicians try to bring about > the same policies here, and clearly the current regime would like to, > they will be in for a rude awakening come election time. (Despite the > best efforts of the government schools and mass media, Americans have > not yet been completely reduced to a state of complacent servitude.) Don't tax oil just keep borrowing from the Chinese and the Saudis. Then we won't be slaves, but our children will be slaves. HA hA HA won't that be funny when the country goes bankrupt in 2030. -jim > > -- > Roger Blake > (Change "invalid" to "com" for email. Google Groups killfiled due to spam.) > "Obama dozed while people froze." |