JD Power APEAL Survey: Toyota ranked next to last, Honda, Nissan below average
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From: chuckcar on 18 Jul 2010 21:39 kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in news:i1vs6q$kje$1(a)panix2.panix.com: > In article <Xns9DB9A3EFC9D7Achuck(a)127.0.0.1>, chuckcar > <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote: >>Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in >>news:Xns9DB972BD6C61Ctegger(a)208.90.168.18: >> >>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50(a)msn.com> wrote in >>> news:C8687B93.1D9A8%epmeyer50(a)msn.com: >>> >>>> I wonder how much GM paid for that "study". >>> >>> GM didn't have to pay anything. Barack simply made a few phone >>> calls, and... >>> >>Got hung up on numerous times because he wasn't in the "old boys >>network". > > Guys, take a look at what the study is and how it was conducted. It's > even less useful than the rest of the Powers surveys, but don't go > pointing fingers at a survey that basically asks random people vague > questions about how much they like car makers. > > You ask questions that don't mean anything, you get answers that don't > mean anything either. Something I sort of alluded to in my other reply. My last post was merely "necessary clarification" if a term must be used. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: C. E. White on 19 Jul 2010 08:03 "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message news:Xns9DB94319CEB7Bchuck(a)127.0.0.1... >> http://www.freep.com/article/20100715/BUSINESS01/100715036/1210/BUSINES >> S01/U.S.-automotive-brands-outpace-rivals-in-new-J.D.-Power-survey >> > I think very little of anyone who can't properly spell appeal. You do know they were not actually spelling the word "appeal." Didn't you see the line where it was shown that APEAL is an acronym for "Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout." And yes I agree it is corny. Ed
From: C. E. White on 19 Jul 2010 08:09 "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:C8687B93.1D9A8%epmeyer50(a)msn.com... >> http://www.freep.com/article/20100715/BUSINESS01/100715036/1210/BUSINESS01/U.S >> .-automotive-brands-outpace-rivals-in-new-J.D.-Power-survey > > I wonder how much GM paid for that "study". So was Toyota paying for years when they were at the top of this same "study?" I have to love the Toyota drones sense of perspective. Apparently they think if you are not on your knees kissing Toyota's butt you are in the pay of someone else. Get a clue - Toyota is just another just another car company out to separate you from your money just like GM. Ed White
From: Clive on 19 Jul 2010 08:58 In message <i21f74$6p1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> writes >So was Toyota paying for years when they were at the top of this same >"study?" I have to love the Toyota drones sense of perspective. Apparently >they think if you are not on your knees kissing Toyota's butt you are in the >pay of someone else. Get a clue - Toyota is just another just another car >company out to separate you from your money just like GM. This is a very strange way to look at a foreign company and assume that their work ethic is the same as in the US, where it's I'm all right Jack. (I don't care about you, attitude.) -- Clive
From: C. E. White on 19 Jul 2010 11:51
"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:C869D855.1DB59%epmeyer50(a)msn.com... > On 7/19/10 7:09 AM, in article i21f74$6p1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, > "C. > E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >> >> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> news:C8687B93.1D9A8%epmeyer50(a)msn.com... >> >>>> http://www.freep.com/article/20100715/BUSINESS01/100715036/1210/BUSINESS01/U >>>> .S >>>> .-automotive-brands-outpace-rivals-in-new-J.D.-Power-survey >>> >>> I wonder how much GM paid for that "study". >> >> So was Toyota paying for years when they were at the top of this same >> "study?" I have to love the Toyota drones sense of perspective. >> Apparently >> they think if you are not on your knees kissing Toyota's butt you are in >> the >> pay of someone else. Get a clue - Toyota is just another just another car >> company out to separate you from your money just like GM. >> >> >> >> Ed White >> >> > I have never owned a Toyota. I have never even test driven a Toyota > (because the local dealer is a total butt, not anything to do with the > cars). I have owned a Pontiac, a Chevrolet, 3 Oldsmobiles, 3 Fords, a > Chrysler, 3 Hondas, an Acura, 2 Nissans and 4 Infinitis. Enjoyed every > one > of them. In my experience, the Infinitis have been far and away the most > fun to drive, and also in my experience, the least expensive to maintain. > > Get a clue yourself Ed. I did not mention the word Toyota anywhere in my > post. My apologies. I didn't actually say you were a Toyota drone (I was referring to them, and if you are not one, then you were not included), but you did post your comments in the Toyota group. It seems that any time someone is not 100% positive about Toyota in this group they are immeadiately attacked and called a liar or a shill or worse. And any positive news about GM is treated as if it was the result of some vast left wing conspiracy or was the result of a personl request of President Obama. Back to the original topic - Why do you think GM (or anyone else) pays for good ratings from JD Power? And it you truly beleive that GM is paying for the current better (but not great ratings), why would you not believe the same is true for other companies that have enjoyed good rating in the past (sometime apprently for no reason I could understand). Ed |