Oil and Filter Change
in [Technical]
|
From: rantonrave on 4 Nov 2007 23:31 Built_Well wrote: >Ray O wrote: > >>Tighten the drain plug until it doesn't leak - about 1/4 to 1/2 turn after >>the bolt head contacts the oil pan. >======== > >So only a 1/4 or 1/2 turn after the drain plug's bolt head contacts the >oil pan will amount to 18 foot pounds? > 1/2 turn past contact is probably way too tight for a pan bolt, unless the bolt uses a rubber gasket, but most bolt gaskets are copper or hard nylon, because gasketed spark plugs are tightened to 1/4 turn past contact, which is only 15 ft.-lbs.
From: Ray O on 5 Nov 2007 01:11 <rantonrave(a)mail.com> wrote in message news:1194237074.653199.225680(a)v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > > Built_Well wrote: >>Ray O wrote: >> >>>Tighten the drain plug until it doesn't leak - about 1/4 to 1/2 turn >>>after >>>the bolt head contacts the oil pan. >>======== >> >>So only a 1/4 or 1/2 turn after the drain plug's bolt head contacts the >>oil pan will amount to 18 foot pounds? >> > 1/2 turn past contact is probably way too tight for a pan bolt, unless > the bolt uses a rubber gasket, but most bolt gaskets are copper or > hard nylon, because gasketed spark plugs are tightened to 1/4 turn > past contact, which is only 15 ft.-lbs. > Toyota uses a fiber gasket which has some give, which is why I said "1/4 to 1/2 turn" and not 1/4 *or* 1/2. Your clarification is helpful to the OP, who probably has more detailed information on how to do an oil change than anyone who has never attempted one! -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Mike Romain on 5 Nov 2007 10:31 rantonrave(a)mail.com wrote: > Built_Well wrote: >> Ray O wrote: >> >>> Tighten the drain plug until it doesn't leak - about 1/4 to 1/2 turn after >>> the bolt head contacts the oil pan. >> ======== >> >> So only a 1/4 or 1/2 turn after the drain plug's bolt head contacts the >> oil pan will amount to 18 foot pounds? >> > 1/2 turn past contact is probably way too tight for a pan bolt, unless > the bolt uses a rubber gasket, but most bolt gaskets are copper or > hard nylon, because gasketed spark plugs are tightened to 1/4 turn > past contact, which is only 15 ft.-lbs. > If you go a half turn on most with the plastic washer, you will strip them. Even a full quarter turn is iffy unless you have a new copper crush washer.... Oil pan drain bolts strip so easily all the parts stores carry oversized self tappers for the 'hopeful' repair vs replacing the oil pan. Use a torque wrench. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08
From: Tegger on 5 Nov 2007 18:01 Comboverfish <comboverfish(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:1194213353.020013.14450 @y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com: > On Nov 3, 8:36 pm, Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote: >> aarcuda69062 <nonel...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:nonelson- >> A3B57E.19115703112...(a)news.chi.sbcglobal.net: >> >> > In article <Xns99DDBE9B9B548teg...(a)207.14.116.130>, >> > Tegger <teg...(a)tegger.c0m> wrote: >> >> >> You don't need to be >> >> the Bionic Woman (or Man) to apply 18 ft-lbs to a fastener. >> >> > Without a wrench? I'd bet you can't do it. ;-) >> >> I do it with my teeth. I have Bionic teeth. >> >> >> > > So.... you're Julia Roberts? > As part of my bionic rebuilding, they used DNA from a '48 Buick. -- Tegger
From: Built_Well on 6 Nov 2007 09:13
Yesterday, I went to an Ace hardware store called Westlake's and bought some high-quality turbine oil called Zoom Spout. Thanks to Scott Dorsey for recommending this oil to lube the nooks and crannies of the Michelin floor jack. This turbine oil was hard to find and I only found it because Scott mentioned Ace hardware. 3-in-1 oil is everywhere, but turbine oil was only at Ace, not even Harbor Freight. While at Ace, I also picked up some 220-grit sandpaper and indoor/outdoor enamel paint to fix up the small rust spots on the floor jack. The Sam's Club Michelin floor jack is wonderful, works awesome, and has lots of great features, but I really wasn't expecting a handful of small rust spots. Anyway, I'll take care of that jack because it'll take care of me. I'm trusting that jack with my life, after all. I went back to Harbor Freight to play with the 5 or 6 floor jacks they have on display. Not even their aluminum jacks work as well and as smoothly as this Michelin jack from Sam's Club. I actually think the Michelin jack is made by Shinn Fu America (must be a Chinese company), because Shinn Fu appears in very small print in the manual. Michelin musta paid an advertising fee to get its name and logo emblazoned on this fine jack. Everybody knows Bibendum, the Michelin Tyre Man! He's the buff version of the Pillsbury dough boy. The convenience of the jack's Speedy Lift feature really can't be overstated. None of the jacks at Harbor Freight had this. Ray O, I'm wondering if your old but reliable pro-grade floor jack that you bought from a buddy has the Speedy Lift feature, which brings the saddle up to the chassis in one stroke? "They don't make things like they used to" is often true, but I wonder if Speedy Lift was around at the time your jack was made. Your jack is probably built better than mine, but I doubt it has Speedy Lift ;-) I wasn't able to find the hydraulic jack oil recommended by the manual anywhere. Everybody's got a generic hydraulic oil and the Snap brand, but I couldn't find the Mobil DTE 13M mentioned in the manual anywhere, or the synthetic Pentosin/Pentosyn CHF 11S recommended by Steve W. |