From: D Walford on
On 7/07/2010 1:50 PM, George W Frost wrote:
> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:4c33c7ea$0$14154$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> On 7/07/2010 1:39 AM, Kev wrote:
>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>> On 6/07/2010 10:52 PM, Diesel Damo wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 6, 10:03 pm, Kev<kev...(a)optunet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Got $7500 for my 2003 BA Falcon XT
>>>>>> Held out against all the sub $5000 offers
>>>>>> 2 months to sell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time to fit out the tray of the ute with some nice new custom made
>>>>>> alloy
>>>>>> Tong Boxes
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a very good price. I only comment because I have a mate who is
>>>>> trying to move a similar vehicle and is having no such luck. He is
>>>>> getting rained on with 4-5K offers.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting to compare values of 2003 Falcons, Commodores and Camrys on
>>>> drive.com.au.
>>>> Their sh values are about the same yet the Camry cost approx $5000.00
>>>> less to buy new.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same with utes
>>> Falcon utes cost less than sedans when new, but try getting a good one
>>> for under $9000, I paid $10,000 for mine(XLS) and that was around
>>> $2000-$3000 cheaper than anything else I could find
>>
>> Its been that way with utes for a very long time, brother in law used to
>> make a bit of cash by buying and selling old utes, sometimes all they
>> needed was a bit of a detail a RWC, he resprayed quite a few and could
>> easily sell as many as he could get his hands on but no one wanted sedans
>> especially in central Vic where he lived.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
>
> Friend of mine in Central Victoria was doing the same thing,
> maybe it is the same bloke?

Was he a police sgt based in Benalla?


Daryl
From: D Walford on
On 7/07/2010 10:20 AM, PHATRS wrote:
> On 07/07/10 10:11, D Walford wrote:
>> On 6/07/2010 11:47 PM, hippo wrote:
>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 6/07/2010 10:52 PM, Diesel Damo wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 6, 10:03 pm, Kev<kev...(a)optunet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Got $7500 for my 2003 BA Falcon XT
>>>>>> Held out against all the sub $5000 offers
>>>>>> 2 months to sell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time to fit out the tray of the ute with some nice new custom made
>>>>>> alloy
>>>>>> Tong Boxes
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a very good price. I only comment because I have a mate who is
>>>>> trying to move a similar vehicle and is having no such luck. He is
>>>>> getting rained on with 4-5K offers.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting to compare values of 2003 Falcons, Commodores and Camrys on
>>>> drive.com.au.
>>>> Their sh values are about the same yet the Camry cost approx $5000.00
>>>> less to buy new.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daryl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Simple supply& demand. Probably better than 90% of used car buyers will
>>> have a Camry&/or a Corolla on their shortlist, but less than 40% of used
>>> cars would be those two models, so prices can be set relatively high.
>>>
>>
>> True but the reasons why that is so is that the Toyota's stand the test
>> of time a lot better than Falcodores.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
>
> I wonder if that is because Toyota owners are more likely to service
> their vehicles. And they cost more in the first place, so they're more
> likely to bought by people who can afford regular maintenance.
>
> I could be wrong. It happened once before.


2003 Camry was approx $5000 cheaper than the same year Falcodore.
Lack of maintenance is one of the main reasons they don't last as long
but shoddy build quality is their biggest problem.


Daryl
From: D Walford on
On 7/07/2010 2:53 PM, Diesel Damo wrote:
> On Jul 7, 11:52 am, "Fraser Johnston"<ftr...(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Mine is running ok with 200k kms on it. Only problems so far are an
>> intermittent check engine and abs lights on the dash. Neither of which seem to
>> effect driveability at all. Going to buy an OBD2 scanner at some point this
>> week.
>
> I find that things like indicator assemblies literally fall out and
> end up hanging by their wires. I can't mount the spare on the back
> anymore because the spot-welded nuts that hold it in place each have
> fallen off. Bullbar is forever getting stress fractures where it bolts
> to the vehicle. The grill eventually fell to pieces completely. All
> sorts of brackets and things in the engine bay have snapped and been
> repaired.
>
> It's just not build with long term (ab)use in mind. Naturally problems
> like these wouldn't present in a suburban environment. It's got
> 360,000 on it right now, but these problems were occuring back around
> 200,000 too.
>
> Hilux has nearly 500,000 and it's unstoppable (although it has had an
> engine reco) - the old Corolla we had got to 460,000 just fine until
> it's sump got pierced and eventually died on the way back from
> Victoria - Camry has 280,000 and every screw and nut is still in
> place. I like my Toyotas :)

Its no wonder when you get those sort of klms from them.
460,000klm is impressive from a Corolla.


Daryl
From: Fraser Johnston on

"Diesel Damo" <Diesel_4WD(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:7ea29109-26e4-4af4-aaba-a60c1a62b5fe(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 7, 11:52 am, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Mine is running ok with 200k kms on it. Only problems so far are an
> intermittent check engine and abs lights on the dash. Neither of which seem
> to
> effect driveability at all. Going to buy an OBD2 scanner at some point this
> week.

I find that things like indicator assemblies literally fall out and
end up hanging by their wires. I can't mount the spare on the back
anymore because the spot-welded nuts that hold it in place each have
fallen off. Bullbar is forever getting stress fractures where it bolts
to the vehicle. The grill eventually fell to pieces completely. All
sorts of brackets and things in the engine bay have snapped and been
repaired.

It's just not build with long term (ab)use in mind. Naturally problems
like these wouldn't present in a suburban environment. It's got
360,000 on it right now, but these problems were occuring back around
200,000 too.

Hilux has nearly 500,000 and it's unstoppable (although it has had an
engine reco) - the old Corolla we had got to 460,000 just fine until
it's sump got pierced and eventually died on the way back from
Victoria - Camry has 280,000 and every screw and nut is still in
place. I like my Toyotas :)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So chuck it in before it hits starship milage then. : )

Fraser



From: Kev on
George W Frost wrote:
> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:4c33c7ea$0$14154$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> On 7/07/2010 1:39 AM, Kev wrote:
>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>> On 6/07/2010 10:52 PM, Diesel Damo wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 6, 10:03 pm, Kev<kev...(a)optunet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Got $7500 for my 2003 BA Falcon XT
>>>>>> Held out against all the sub $5000 offers
>>>>>> 2 months to sell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time to fit out the tray of the ute with some nice new custom made
>>>>>> alloy
>>>>>> Tong Boxes
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a very good price. I only comment because I have a mate who is
>>>>> trying to move a similar vehicle and is having no such luck. He is
>>>>> getting rained on with 4-5K offers.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting to compare values of 2003 Falcons, Commodores and Camrys on
>>>> drive.com.au.
>>>> Their sh values are about the same yet the Camry cost approx $5000.00
>>>> less to buy new.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same with utes
>>> Falcon utes cost less than sedans when new, but try getting a good one
>>> for under $9000, I paid $10,000 for mine(XLS) and that was around
>>> $2000-$3000 cheaper than anything else I could find
>>
>> Its been that way with utes for a very long time, brother in law used to
>> make a bit of cash by buying and selling old utes, sometimes all they
>> needed was a bit of a detail a RWC, he resprayed quite a few and could
>> easily sell as many as he could get his hands on but no one wanted sedans
>> especially in central Vic where he lived.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
>
> Friend of mine in Central Victoria was doing the same thing,
> maybe it is the same bloke?
>
> There is a bloke in Central Victoria who was converting station wagons into
> a double cabin ute
>
>


Talking of twin cab ute conversions
At Marburg just west of Ipswich there is a neat looking(well from the
road it is) CL/CM valiant twin cab ute for sale
looks really well done

saw my first new 79series cruiser wagon converted to a twin cab ute

I think if they are going to go that far the higher roof from a troopy
would have been a better option


Kev