From: Adrian on 23 Mar 2010 15:58 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > I've been stopped at a checkpoint whilst going about my legal business, > asked who I worked for (plastered all over the side of the wagon) Every wagon that says has a brand name on the side is driven by an employee of that organisation, is it? No, thought not.
From: GeoffC on 23 Mar 2010 15:59 Ret. wrote: > steve robinson wrote: >> Cynic wrote: >> >>>>>> >>>>> And when you're ID'd as a possible perpetrator? >>>> >>>> And why would I be? >>> >>> Because, as you keep reminding us, the police are only human, and >>> humans occasionally make mistakes. >> >> Its not occasional i got picked out of a lineup years ago yet i was >> just someone the police rounded up at the local precinct and asked if >> i wouldnt mind helpin etc etc . >> >> When the alledged crime occured (about 5 days before)i was the best >> part of 250 miles away with at least 12 MOD police officers as >> witnesses monitored by cctv private security and several navel >> officers > > I've held dozens of ID parades. It's quite unusual, although not > unknown for a witness to pick the wrong person. Of course there is > never any likelihood of the person who is wrongly picked becoming a > suspect. Or the wrong person being incarcerated for a crime they never committed, no that never happens does it? Course not. -- Geoff
From: Conor on 23 Mar 2010 16:00 On 23/03/2010 14:43, Ret. wrote: > Yes I do. Are there 560k issued each day? Far many more transactions are recorded.. > I know what you are going to argue but the situation is totally > different. Tesco have an interest in the purchasing patterns of their > customers in order to personally direct special offers etc. But this > process will be computerised. They don't have actual staff checking > every customer's purchasing patterns do they? And the point is well and truly missed. The point is that a computer programme mines the data and produces a result. It doesn't need someone to see it. However, if a data mining of a government database threw up that your moevements were suspicious, then there would be people actually looking at that. And don't forget, most people assume computers are infallible. > > Automatic static ANPR is being rolled out across the country and, before > long, there will be millions of plates being 'read' every week (if not > every day). The overwhelming majority of the journeys will be completely > innocuous commuting trips, shopping trips, leisure drives, etc. Even if > it were possible to individually examine each of those journeys - what > would be the purpose? > Well certain councils are planning to charge people for excessive waste from data gleaned from RFID chips in bins. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Adrian on 23 Mar 2010 16:02 Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Except that it wasn't Joe Bloggs at all, just someone who cloned the > numberplate of a similar colour and model car he saw in his home town. Depends, of course, on whether ANPR stores images as well as just registration/location data as to whether even that's necessary... Clearly, if images are stored, then there's a considerably greater storage requirement - but still far from insurmountable. Just a single still - not particularly hi-res - from each capture.
From: Ret. on 23 Mar 2010 16:04
Conor wrote: > On 23/03/2010 06:55, Steve Firth wrote: >> Maria<fallingdown(a)holeinshoe.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Several years ago, I had a letter from one of these survey companies >>> acting for the government - the letter said that I had been spotted >>> by one of those tall blue things by the road, >> >> I doubt it. > > I've been stopped at a checkpoint whilst going about my legal > business, asked who I worked for (plastered all over the side of the > wagon) where I was going, where I'd come from (on the side of the > wagon) , what I was carrying and what time I started work. This > wasn't from a copper but some gubbermint busybody with a clipboard - > the Police were the ones pulling random cars in. > > Its happened several times in various places. Each time, the response > was the same - a polite sod off. These are simply traffic census points. Intended to discover traffic flow along a particular road and where it is coming from and going to - usually with the aim of improving local roads. Being rude and uncooperative is self-defeating. Kev |