From: John_H on
D Walford wrote:
>On 21/06/2010 10:10 AM, John_H wrote:
>>
>> Actually I can't think of any instance where the governing party ever
>> gained any votes from a change in leadership (for whatever reason).
>> OTOH when the opposition does it they almost always gain (if only in
>> the short term). :)
>>
>Bob Hawke pushed out the previous leader (Hayden?) to get the top job
>and if I recall correctly won the election?

Yep, and Labor were the opposition at the time. Had they been the
government it would've been electoral suicide!

The parallel would be the Libs replacing Abbott, not Labor axing Rudd.

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From: John McKenzie on
Athol wrote:
>
> Noddy <me(a)home.com> wrote:
> > "Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> His propensity to make policy announcements without party consultation is
> >> his biggest problem, IMO.
>
> > That and the fact that he has an incredibly bad temper and when put under
> > pressure he has a propensity to explode in a rage. Faced with a barage of
> > heavy media questions about some unpopular subject he's very likely to blow
> > up and shoot himself straight in the head.
>
> You mean like Rudd has done, such as "in 7:30 report land"? :-)

Which is pretty funny considering what a communist poster child the 730
report is. Imagine some objective journalists got at him good.


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From: Bernd Felsche on
John McKenzie <jmac_melbourne(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>Athol wrote:
>> Noddy <me(a)home.com> wrote:
>> > "Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote:

>> >> His propensity to make policy announcements without party
>> >> consultation is his biggest problem, IMO.

>> > That and the fact that he has an incredibly bad temper and when
>> > put under pressure he has a propensity to explode in a rage.
>> > Faced with a barage of heavy media questions about some
>> > unpopular subject he's very likely to blow up and shoot himself
>> > straight in the head.

>> You mean like Rudd has done, such as "in 7:30 report land"? :-)

>Which is pretty funny considering what a communist poster child the
>730 report is. Imagine some objective journalists got at him good.

Never betray a commie. Even fleeing to Mexico won't save you.

They all *have* to be of one mind and any dissent, or even hint of
dissent has to be quashed. By any means; justified by the need to
all be of one mind.
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From: Jason James on

"Bernd Felsche" <berfel(a)innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:fgg6f7x7c6.ln2(a)innovative.iinet.net.au...
> John McKenzie <jmac_melbourne(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>Athol wrote:
>>> Noddy <me(a)home.com> wrote:
>>> > "Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote:
>
>>> >> His propensity to make policy announcements without party
>>> >> consultation is his biggest problem, IMO.
>
>>> > That and the fact that he has an incredibly bad temper and when
>>> > put under pressure he has a propensity to explode in a rage.
>>> > Faced with a barage of heavy media questions about some
>>> > unpopular subject he's very likely to blow up and shoot himself
>>> > straight in the head.
>
>>> You mean like Rudd has done, such as "in 7:30 report land"? :-)
>
>>Which is pretty funny considering what a communist poster child the
>>730 report is. Imagine some objective journalists got at him good.
>
> Never betray a commie. Even fleeing to Mexico won't save you.

Hmmm,.cant imagine Kerry O'brian with an ice-pick :-)

Jason


From: Neil Gerace on
John_H wrote:

> Is there any precedent for replacing an Australian PM part term for
> other than health reasons?

Barton -> Deakin (Protectionist)
Fisher -> Hughes (ALP)
Hughes -> Bruce (Nationalist)
Forde -> Chifley (ALP)
McEwen -> Gorton (Country -> Liberal)
Gorton -> McMahon (Liberal)


and of course

Hawke -> Keating.

Forde (after Curtin's death) and McEwen (after Holt's disappearance) were caretakers only.


(any corrections are welcome)