Another car damages another house.
in [UK Drivers]
|
From: Derek Geldard on 29 Mar 2010 05:05 On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> > As the video shows the taxi had been corked >> >> obstructed >> >Semantics. <snip> Then why not use plain English then? You know, where the words have meanings which are commonly and mutually accepted accepted for the better mutual comprehension of all. >See above. >> >> Any comments on the lawbreaking that you have filmed? >> >No. Its similar both to other processions and other types of road >user, such as motorists, so not really deserving of comment. Do you >have a point? ITYF motorists, having already got a life do not indulge in CM antics such as creating disruption and delay for the hell of it. HTH Derek
From: Doug on 29 Mar 2010 13:04 On 29 Mar, 10:05, Derek Geldard <d...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> > wrote: > > >> > As the video shows the taxi had been corked > > >> obstructed > > >Semantics. > > <snip> > > Then why not use plain English then? > > You know, where the words have meanings which are commonly and > mutually accepted accepted for the better mutual comprehension of all. > The term 'corking' has become accepted in connection with CM and in several countries. If you were familiar with the subject you would know it. > > >See above. > > >> Any comments on the lawbreaking that you have filmed? > > >No. Its similar both to other processions and other types of road > >user, such as motorists, so not really deserving of comment. Do you > >have a point? > > ITYF motorists, having already got a life do not indulge in CM antics > such as creating disruption and delay for the hell of it. > > HTH > CM does not do it 'for the hell of it', though some of the participants may. What makes you imagine that a mass of cyclists should not use the roads in much the same way as a mass of motorists already do everyday? Do you expect all cyclists to go around in just ones or twos? If you do then you are making a good case for CM. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "Whose roads? Our roads!"
From: Tony Dragon on 29 Mar 2010 13:09 Doug wrote: > On 28 Mar, 11:41, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> On 27 Mar, 10:58, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> The Medway Handyman wrote: >>>>> Doug wrote: >>>>>> On 26 Mar, 09:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> Doug wrote: >>>>>>> You claim to have been rammed in this video - >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4WOmrwXPg >>>>>>> The video is 26 seconds long. Could you specify exactly when you were >>>>>>> rammed? >>>>>> When the video cuts off and causing my thumb to slip on the camera >>>>>> button. Try reading the text that accompanies the video. >>>>> How could you be rammed by the taxi you were filming? >>>> And why was he preventing the taxi's right to pass & repass? >>> I wasn't. >>> As the video shows the taxi had been corked >> obstructed >> > Semantics. No the law. >>> as it was about to turn >>> right, with a queue of traffic behind it, by other riders to prevent >>> the remaining CM riders from being blocked. >> Can't have CM stopped in trafic can we? >> > No the procession becomes fragmented and therefore more obstructive. Bad luck. >>> I was situated so as to >>> leave a gap for the taxi to exit right but it drive deliberately at my >>> back wheel instead and the driver then gave me the finger. >>> It is extremely difficult trying to video a ramming as it takes place, >>> partly because of its quick unexpectedness and partly to get a full >>> view of the point of contact as it occurs. >> >> As you have told us 'ramming' takes place all the time on CM, you should >> have no problem videoing it. >> > See above. So you agree with me then. >> Any comments on the lawbreaking that you have filmed? >> > No. Its similar both to other processions and other types of road > user, such as motorists, so not really deserving of comment. Do you > have a point? > > -- > Critical Mass London > http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk > "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist" > I have made the point, you are ignoring it. -- Tony Dragon
From: Brimstone on 29 Mar 2010 13:21 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:ff42f7bb-9a59-4e46-aae1-2725327442f6(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 29 Mar, 10:05, Derek Geldard <d...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> > As the video shows the taxi had been corked >> >> >> obstructed >> >> >Semantics. >> >> <snip> >> >> Then why not use plain English then? >> >> You know, where the words have meanings which are commonly and >> mutually accepted accepted for the better mutual comprehension of all. >> > The term 'corking' has become accepted in connection with CM and in > several countries. If you were familiar with the subject you would > know it. Why should the rest of the population be familiar with your jargon? >> >See above. >> >> >> Any comments on the lawbreaking that you have filmed? >> >> >No. Its similar both to other processions and other types of road >> >user, such as motorists, so not really deserving of comment. Do you >> >have a point? >> >> ITYF motorists, having already got a life do not indulge in CM antics >> such as creating disruption and delay for the hell of it. >> >> HTH >> > CM does not do it 'for the hell of it', though some of the > participants may. What makes you imagine that a mass of cyclists > should not use the roads in much the same way as a mass of motorists > already do everyday? Do you expect all cyclists to go around in just > ones or twos? If you do then you are making a good case for CM. Because, as has been pointed out to you on innumerable occasions, motorists do not go around in "a mass", unlike the pillocks on CM.
From: Adrian on 29 Mar 2010 13:32
Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> >> > As the video shows the taxi had been corked >> >> obstructed >> >Semantics. >> Then why not use plain English then? >> >> You know, where the words have meanings which are commonly and >> mutually accepted accepted for the better mutual comprehension of all. > The term 'corking' has become accepted in connection with CM and in > several countries. If you were familiar with the subject you would know > it. You can call it what you like. The fact remains that it is a euphemism for an illegal obstruction. Or are you trying to deny that? >> ITYF motorists, having already got a life do not indulge in CM antics >> such as creating disruption and delay for the hell of it. >> >> HTH > CM does not do it 'for the hell of it' So you're claiming that CM does create disruption and delay, but they have a reason to do so? > though some of the participants may. I'll invite you to take this opportunity to condemn their actions in creating disruption and delay "for the hell of it". <waits> > What makes you imagine that a mass of cyclists should not use the > roads in much the same way as a mass of motorists already do everyday? Can you tell me when and where the meeting point is for this well-known and regular "customary procession" "mass of motorists", deliberately refusing to liaise with the authorities and apparently having a reason to cause deliberate disruption and delay? > Do you expect all cyclists to go around in just ones or twos? I don't "expect" it. But I do expect deliberate large groups to liaise with the authorities - and to work with them to minimise disruption and delay for other road users. The vast majority of such cycling groups do exactly that. It really only seems to be one particular group who don't. > If you do then you are making a good case for CM. Really? And what is that case? "Nobody else is behaving like spoiled children having a tantrum, so we might as well"? |