From: Neil Williams on
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:02:14 +0000, johnwright <""john\"@no spam
here.com"> wrote:

>On most of the Tom Toms you can also display the Northerly direction if
>that's of any use to you. You can also turn the voice off as well if its
>a familiar route.

Indeed you can - same on mine.

It all provides a very nice set of tools for knowing where you're
going - as long as you use them like that, and not blindly follow any
route you're given even if it is plainly silly.

It makes driving alone in unfamiliar areas far nicer than with a map
(so you don't have to keep stopping to read it, and are always certain
which turning to take) and is an absolute godsend when there is
serious traffic or a closed road, as it just takes a couple of button
presses to route around it. And even when I know where I'm going it
will tell me a surprisingly accurate predicted arrival time.

All-in-all, I expected to find it useful when I bought one, and I
found it even more useful than I expected.

Neil

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From: johnwright ""john" on
Neil Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:02:14 +0000, johnwright <""john\"@no spam
> here.com"> wrote:
>
>> On most of the Tom Toms you can also display the Northerly direction if
>> that's of any use to you. You can also turn the voice off as well if its
>> a familiar route.
>
> Indeed you can - same on mine.
>
> It all provides a very nice set of tools for knowing where you're
> going - as long as you use them like that, and not blindly follow any
> route you're given even if it is plainly silly.
>
> It makes driving alone in unfamiliar areas far nicer than with a map
> (so you don't have to keep stopping to read it, and are always certain
> which turning to take) and is an absolute godsend when there is
> serious traffic or a closed road, as it just takes a couple of button
> presses to route around it. And even when I know where I'm going it
> will tell me a surprisingly accurate predicted arrival time.
>
> All-in-all, I expected to find it useful when I bought one, and I
> found it even more useful than I expected.

I used a Garmin eMap before that which I've had for years but I still
use for other purposes, like walking or riding the bike... One great
improvement is that the eMap cannot hold the entire UK map in memory -
even with the maximum memory expansion you could do with it. Of course
the Tom Tom does straight out of the box. Not to mention that the eMap
is monochrome and makes no sound as well.

I think one of the most interesting routes the Tom Tom has done was to
bring us home from an obscure dog breeder in the middle of Leicestershire.

--

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

From: johnwright ""john" on
johnwright > wrote:
> Neil Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:02:14 +0000, johnwright <""john\"@no spam
>> here.com"> wrote:
>>
>>> On most of the Tom Toms you can also display the Northerly direction
>>> if that's of any use to you. You can also turn the voice off as well
>>> if its a familiar route.
>>
>> Indeed you can - same on mine.
>>
>> It all provides a very nice set of tools for knowing where you're
>> going - as long as you use them like that, and not blindly follow any
>> route you're given even if it is plainly silly.
>>
>> It makes driving alone in unfamiliar areas far nicer than with a map
>> (so you don't have to keep stopping to read it, and are always certain
>> which turning to take) and is an absolute godsend when there is
>> serious traffic or a closed road, as it just takes a couple of button
>> presses to route around it. And even when I know where I'm going it
>> will tell me a surprisingly accurate predicted arrival time.
>>
>> All-in-all, I expected to find it useful when I bought one, and I
>> found it even more useful than I expected.
>
> I used a Garmin eMap before that which I've had for years but I still
> use for other purposes, like walking or riding the bike... One great
> improvement is that the eMap cannot hold the entire UK map in memory -
> even with the maximum memory expansion you could do with it. Of course
> the Tom Tom does straight out of the box. Not to mention that the eMap
> is monochrome and makes no sound as well.

Since this is x-posted into uk.railway I should say I use the eMap on
trains as well. A bit hard to get good reception but when it works its
fine. Clocked an HST at 132.6 mph once :-)

--

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

From: Cynic on
On 22 Dec 2009 13:02:01 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> I see. You believe that punishment will prevent human error. I suppose
>> the correct thing to do if a person slips on the ice would be to give
>> them a hefty fine for making a mistake.
>
>No, I believe that people should be intelligent enough to look at the
>pavement and think "Ooh, it's icy - I'd better be careful" - rather than
>considering spending large amounts of money spent on electrically heating
>the pavements to prevent them ever getting icy.

I see. So presumably you are completely opposed to the huge amount of
money we spend on gritting the roads every year. We should instead
simply laugh at all the smashed up vehicles whose drivers were
obviously too stupid to realise that the roads were slippery.

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Cynifc

From: Cynic on
On 22 Dec 2009 16:00:51 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> That means accepting future collisions between buses full of children
>> and bridges as part of the solution (that being the only way to identify
>> drivers of buses full of children that are predisposed into driving into
>> bridges).
>
>No, not at all. I'd far rather weed the thoroughly inept out before they
>drive buses into bridges - or, indeed, into anything else that didn't
>carry a mandatory neon flashing "Don't drive your bus into me" sign.

And how do you propose to do that? Perhaps we should require all bus
drivers to undertake a mandatory test before being permitted to carry
passengers?

Oh, wait ...

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Cynic

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