From: Silk on 24 Nov 2009 13:45 On 23/11/2009 21:43, The Older Gentleman wrote: > Silk<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> I don't subscribe to the view that learning to drive one particular road >> vehicle teaches you how to drive another. I know that lorries are heavy >> and slow and bikes are light and fast - both likely to be driven/ridden >> by morons and best avoided for similar reasons. What else do I need to know? > > <Serious mode> > > It gives you a new perspective. This from someone who has full car, bike > and Class C+E HGV (in other words, the old Class One artic) licences, as > do others hereabouts. > > Both teach you forms of vehicle control, manoeuvrability, vehicle > positioning and (crucially) anticipation that many car-only drivers are > completely unaware of and which are not taught or learned anywhere else. > > And those skllls can be put to very good use when driving cars. > > Just my two penn'orth. <Serious mode - me too> I kind of see where people are coming from on this, but I simply don't agree. A good driver will already by giving other drivers more room to start with and will have a very good idea of how other vehicles behave on the road. You don't have to have ridden a bike to know that they are difficult to see, the riders are more prone to injury in an accident, are faster and more agile, handle differently in an emergency and when negotiating hazards and, I know this will upset a few, are more likely to be ridden by someone with a lower regard for safety than other road users. If I bear all this in mind, I have a better chance of achieving the goal, which is avoidance. In a way, safe driving can be summed up as getting from A to B without hitting anything. Of course, "good" driving is a different thing altogether, as we can include things that come under the general heading of technique, such as courtesy, smoothness and progress.
From: vulgarandmischevious on 24 Nov 2009 13:48 totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >Silk <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> I don't subscribe to the view that learning to drive one particular road >> vehicle teaches you how to drive another. I know that lorries are heavy >> and slow and bikes are light and fast - both likely to be driven/ridden >> by morons and best avoided for similar reasons. What else do I need to know? > ><Serious mode> > >It gives you a new perspective. This from someone who has full car, bike >and Class C+E HGV (in other words, the old Class One artic) licences, as >do others hereabouts. *waves*
From: Silk on 24 Nov 2009 13:49 On 24/11/2009 18:35, vulgarandmischevious wrote: > Silk<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> On 24/11/2009 17:41, vulgarandmischevious wrote: >>> Silk<me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Fear is the emotion normal people have that prevents them from doing >>>> stupid and dangerous things. Yes, I am scared of motorcycles and for >>>> good reason. >>> >>> An excellent driver would have nothing to fear. >> >> You have to have a certain amount of fear to be a good driver, or at >> least a safe one. > > Bollocks. You don't understand risk. Fear makes you less likely to take a risk.
From: Silk on 24 Nov 2009 13:51 On 24/11/2009 09:51, Conor wrote: > In article<mn.bc227d9b5b080add.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk>, Harry > Bloomfield says... >> >> Conor explained on 23/11/2009 : >>> If the HGV test is so easy, how come so many car drivers fail it? >> >> Not very many car drivers will actually take it, most will already be >> gainfully employed. > > What bearing does that have on anything? I think the implication is that the smart people already have good jobs and have no need to take an LGV test. That only leaves the thick and desperate - a bit like the Forces really.
From: vulgarandmischevious on 24 Nov 2009 13:50
Silk <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >A good driver will already by giving other drivers more room to >start with and will have a very good idea of how other vehicles behave >on the road. Bu you don't have a good idea. That's the point. You don't know anything about trucks or bikes. You mind is closed, and that is what makes you arrogant. Arrogant makes you dangerous. |