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From: Ian Dalziel on 29 Nov 2009 06:47 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:37:57 +0000, Keitht <KeithT> wrote: >Huge wrote: >> On 2009-11-27, Peter Grange <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get his >>> hulking great car off the pavement and on the street where it belongs. >> >> Ah, "tu quoque". The favourite logical fallacy of selfish inconsiderate >> cyclists everywhere. >> >> >Nah, it's just complete bollocks to try and make some people feel >superior at using a bit of outdated Latin that only a partial meaning of >it is latched on to. >Once looked at the quote is rendered as meaningless as those who use it. There is only a partial meaning latched on to that bit of English, as far as I can discern. However, "tu quoque" is a term used in logic. Don't look it up just yet, start by looking up "logic" - that's clearly a concept with which you are unfamiliar as well. -- Ian D
From: mileburner on 29 Nov 2009 06:50 NM wrote: > On 28 Nov, 19:46, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: >> >> Well, according to the legal system, "killed by a motor vehicle" is >> not worth taking seriously, whereas other causes are. > > Rubbish, use you motor vehicle to deliberatly kill will not incur a > lesser penalty than another method, you convieniently fail to > distinguish between an accident and a deliberate act of murder. There is however a lot of scope for claiming that murder by use of a car was merely a terrible and tragic accident and it could be a lot more difficult to prove otherwise.
From: Conor on 29 Nov 2009 06:57 In article <hetmta$sme$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mileburner says... > People own cars through choice. There speaks someone who lives in an urban area with decent public transport. One string of villages up the road from me get two buses a week. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: mileburner on 29 Nov 2009 06:59 Conor wrote: > In article <hetmta$sme$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mileburner > says... > >> People own cars through choice. > > There speaks someone who lives in an urban area with decent public > transport. > > One string of villages up the road from me get two buses a week. People choose where they live too.
From: NM on 29 Nov 2009 07:17
On 29 Nov, 11:50, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > NM wrote: > > On 28 Nov, 19:46, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > > >> Well, according to the legal system, "killed by a motor vehicle" is > >> not worth taking seriously, whereas other causes are. > > > Rubbish, use you motor vehicle to deliberatly kill will not incur a > > lesser penalty than another method, you convieniently fail to > > distinguish between an accident and a deliberate act of murder. > > There is however a lot of scope for claiming that murder by use of a car was > merely a terrible and tragic accident and it could be a lot more difficult > to prove otherwise. So what, it's still murder. |