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From: Jethro on 21 Jul 2010 10:02 Having just watched a number cars grinding up a hill near me (I was walking) because a cyclist was at the head of the queue, and it was too twisty and narrow to safely overtake, I started wondering about the OVERALL effect cyclists have on carbon emissions. Does all the extra carbon produced by cars having to crawl behind cyclists cancel out, or exceed the carbon saved by the cyclist ?
From: GT on 21 Jul 2010 11:22 "Jethro" <krazykara0(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:6842a0c5-6d67-4d78-a6b5-7ce0b485caa7(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > Having just watched a number cars grinding up a hill near me (I was > walking) because a cyclist was at the head of the queue, and it was > too twisty and narrow to safely overtake, I started wondering about > the OVERALL effect cyclists have on carbon emissions. > > Does all the extra carbon produced by cars having to crawl behind > cyclists cancel out, or exceed the carbon saved by the cyclist ? I asked this question a while ago and the answer was that its the drivers fault for choosing to take the journey in the first place. If he hadn't set out then there would be no congestion and therefore car drivers deliberately cause congestions as an attempt to choke cyclists with exhaust fumes. Or something like that! Don't forget: there are a set of laws and rules for cars and their drivers, but no rules for cyclists.
From: Bernard on 21 Jul 2010 18:19 "Jethro" <krazykara0(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:6842a0c5-6d67-4d78-a6b5-7ce0b485caa7(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > Having just watched a number cars grinding up a hill near me (I was > walking) because a cyclist was at the head of the queue, and it was > too twisty and narrow to safely overtake, I started wondering about > the OVERALL effect cyclists have on carbon emissions. > > Does all the extra carbon produced by cars having to crawl behind > cyclists cancel out, or exceed the carbon saved by the cyclist ? If a driver is being held up by slow moving traffic and the driver is concerned about their affect on the environment, they they should find a safe place to park, turn off the engine and wait for the traffic to dissipate,
From: GT on 21 Jul 2010 18:32 "Bernard" <bernard.x.ramsden(a)x.btinternet.x.com> wrote in message news:VMidnWDLFL8W79rRnZ2dnUVZ8hCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "Jethro" <krazykara0(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:6842a0c5-6d67-4d78-a6b5-7ce0b485caa7(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> Having just watched a number cars grinding up a hill near me (I was >> walking) because a cyclist was at the head of the queue, and it was >> too twisty and narrow to safely overtake, I started wondering about >> the OVERALL effect cyclists have on carbon emissions. >> >> Does all the extra carbon produced by cars having to crawl behind >> cyclists cancel out, or exceed the carbon saved by the cyclist ? > > If a driver is being held up by slow moving traffic and the driver is > concerned about their affect on the environment, they they should find a > safe place to park, turn off the engine and wait for the traffic to > dissipate, How about... If a driver is holding up traffic by moving more slowly than everyone else is capable, he should find a safe place to stop and let the faster moving traffic dissipate.
From: mileburner on 22 Jul 2010 01:37
"GT" <ContactGT_rem_ove_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c4774db$0$12279$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Bernard" <bernard.x.ramsden(a)x.btinternet.x.com> wrote in message > news:VMidnWDLFL8W79rRnZ2dnUVZ8hCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> >> "Jethro" <krazykara0(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:6842a0c5-6d67-4d78-a6b5-7ce0b485caa7(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >>> Having just watched a number cars grinding up a hill near me (I was >>> walking) because a cyclist was at the head of the queue, and it was >>> too twisty and narrow to safely overtake, I started wondering about >>> the OVERALL effect cyclists have on carbon emissions. >>> >>> Does all the extra carbon produced by cars having to crawl behind >>> cyclists cancel out, or exceed the carbon saved by the cyclist ? >> >> If a driver is being held up by slow moving traffic and the driver is >> concerned about their affect on the environment, they they should find a >> safe place to park, turn off the engine and wait for the traffic to >> dissipate, > > How about... > If a driver is holding up traffic by moving more slowly than everyone else > is capable, he should find a safe place to stop and let the faster moving > traffic dissipate. Either way, if they were *that* concerned, they would probably not be driving... |