From: Conor on
On 17/03/2010 11:49, Adrian wrote:
> Conor<conor(a)gmx.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPmw3OVQMo
>
>> No, its real. You can't see anything below 4ft high within 4ft of the
>> windscreen
>
> So a 5.5-6ft wide, 4.5-5ft high car would be visible?
>
The answer is "it depends". The drivers seats are height adjustable by
about 18". I used to have mine quite high up so I could see stuff
closer. I know many who don't, especially short-arses. I'm sure you
don't need telling how to work out how that affects things.

>> All you need to do is either catch the rear corner of a car as you
>> change lanes or have some dumbarse carve you up just a bit too much.
>
> Which would be visible, no?

I think we've had this conversation before, mainly about slip roads. The
answer is "possibly not". You can have a complete car hidden depending
on the height of the bottom of the cab door glass, the height of the
drivers seat, the way the mirrors are. On virtually all lorries, there
is a point where if the car passes just right, it can be invisible at
the moment the driver checks the mirrors. Drivers side OTOH would be
visible all the time.


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Conor
I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on
On 17/03/2010 12:45, Nkosi (ama-ecosse) wrote:

> Definately a fuckwit like the BP and other petrol tanker racing
> drivers who scream down Inchyra Road in Grangemouth (40 limit) at well
> over 50mph.
>

Sadly, that's what happens when you bring in a "tonnage" or percentage
of earnings bonus to the job. Its the reason many tipper drivers do as well.


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Conor
I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Adrian on
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPmw3OVQMo

>>> No, its real. You can't see anything below 4ft high within 4ft of the
>>> windscreen

>> So a 5.5-6ft wide, 4.5-5ft high car would be visible?

> The answer is "it depends". The drivers seats are height adjustable by
> about 18". I used to have mine quite high up so I could see stuff
> closer. I know many who don't, especially short-arses. I'm sure you
> don't need telling how to work out how that affects things.

Oh, indeed.

>>> All you need to do is either catch the rear corner of a car as you
>>> change lanes or have some dumbarse carve you up just a bit too much.

>> Which would be visible, no?

> I think we've had this conversation before, mainly about slip roads. The
> answer is "possibly not". You can have a complete car hidden depending
> on the height of the bottom of the cab door glass, the height of the
> drivers seat, the way the mirrors are. On virtually all lorries, there
> is a point where if the car passes just right, it can be invisible at
> the moment the driver checks the mirrors. Drivers side OTOH would be
> visible all the time.

Sounds like a good argument for LHD wagons... <grin>

So - anyway - your guesstimate as to the likelihood of it being genuinely
unknown to an attentive driver in the wagon?
From: NM on
On 17 Mar, 11:49, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPmw3OVQMo
> > No, its real. You can't see anything below 4ft high within 4ft of the
> > windscreen
>
> So a 5.5-6ft wide, 4.5-5ft high car would be visible?
>
> > All you need to do is either catch the rear corner of a car as you
> > change lanes or have some dumbarse carve you up just a bit too much.
>
> Which would be visible, no?

No, it's happened to me, two times though at much less speed, once
going forward and the other whilst reversing,
both times was caused by fuckwitted car drivers, one in full view of
the police. The Fiat I shoved sideways up the road was totally
invisible from the drivers seat, I thought there was a malfunction so
when I stopped to investigate I first looked under the trailer for a
defect, it never occured to me that there was a Fiat jammed sideways
underneath my bumper, luckily plod witnessed all.
From: Conor on
On 17/03/2010 13:37, Adrian wrote:

> So - anyway - your guesstimate as to the likelihood of it being genuinely
> unknown to an attentive driver in the wagon?

Pretty doubtful. Something somewhere must've fired off a neuron or two.
I could understand it if it were a few hundred yards or so as the driver
realised what was happening and then slowed.

The video has made it onto trucknet. One of the forum drivers actually
ended up in this scenario. He said it happened when a car cut across in
front of him and he ended up clipping the rear. Said that there was no
way that you couldn't notice it. He reckons there must have been a bit
of red mist going on in that video.

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Conor
I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.